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Poker has elements of gambling, skill, and psychology (reading tells, learning how to read your opponents). My sister supported herself for about a year in Vegas just playing poker. I have to admire her skill in turning playing poker into a living. (She eventually got a teaching job in their public school system.)
No they don't, IP laws only exist because of state violence.
IP is meant to be shared and developed, you can't have one person stifling free expression because they original came up with the idea.
In a free society, people would be open to share resources and develop new content. Just look at the gaming industry, each time a few friends get together to make their own project based on a pre-set IP, the corporate owner of that IP shuts them down severely limiting creative endevors and creating an environment where they only exist for profit.
Ahhh, gamers. Gamers stealing someone else's work. Gotta love it.
You think poker isn't gambling? Why am I not surprised?
Don't be dense.
I was mentioning poker as an example of gambling where skill and strategy comes to play more than chance giving people a degree of control over the risk they are taking.
Ahhh, gamers. Gamers stealing someone else's work. Gotta love it.
No, it's not theft if its an original product.
If people were allowed to freely share and co-create entertainment the industry would prosper without having to be tied down by for profit models and the need to make a sale.
Once the creator of an IP releases it to the world, they are sharing with others, and no level of corporate bureaucracy or private power should determine what people are or are not allowed to create.
I was mentioning poker as an example of gambling where skill and strategy comes to play more than chance giving people a degree of control over the risk they are taking.
Who's dense in this thread? Power is still gambling and is not comparable to investing.
Who's dense in this thread? Power is still gambling and is not comparable to investing.
No SL, I already argued with you (and the person I was responding to) why investments aren't directly involved or necessary in forming production.
We then moved on to argue whether risk is deservant of reward, to which I brought up the point that gambling does not give someone the economic or moral right to control capital even though there is risk involved.
Then, after being told gambling had no control over the outcome and was based purely on luck unlike investment, I brought up poker as a counter example.
If people were allowed to freely share and co-create entertainment the industry would prosper without having to be tied down by for profit models and the need to make a sale.
Once the creator of an IP releases it to the world, they are sharing with others, and no level of corporate bureaucracy or private power should determine what people are or are not allowed to create.
Obviously it's theft if you and your friends used any part of someone else's protected work. You weren't co-creating and sharing, you outright took part of their work without their permission, without communicating with them and finding out if or how you could work together.
Why don't you give your new game to the company you stole from and let them sell it, you know, do some sharing?
Laws are laws and if you choose to be ignorant and believe that certain laws shouldn't apply to you, that's on you. Go work for that gaming company if you want to help create similar games. Or start your own company but come up with your own original work that doesn't steal their ideas.
I see people like you all the time. You try to beat the system and make a buck without doing any research and going through the correct channels, then you're shocked when you get that cease and desist letter.
No SL, I already argued with you (and the person I was responding to) why investments aren't directly involved or necessary in forming production.
We then moved on to argue whether risk is deservant of reward, to which I brought up the point that gambling does not give someone the economic or moral right to control capital even though there is risk involved.
Then, after being told gambling had no control over the outcome and was based purely on luck unlike investment, I brought up poker as a counter example.
You don't have to be so two-faced.
name calling, how disappointing.
Poker is still gambling, there may be other elements to it but at the core of it, it is still gambling (that's why it is included in casinos and regulated). To offer it up as an alternative to gambling as your example is head scratching at best.
If people can learn one thing from this thread, it should be to see the power of propaganda on others. It’s actually pretty funny to see. You could provide evidence to the contrary all day, but people still think they will sail off the edge of the flat Earth.
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