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Old 03-10-2023, 11:14 AM
 
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I think the target for the Fed is to cause unemployment to hit 6-7% before it will pivot. That's what employers want really to cause a rinsing of the labor and commodity prices. You can't fix supply chain inflation without drastically reducing demand. It won't be painless that's for sure.
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Old 03-10-2023, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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U.S. banks stocks exceed $100 billion in lost market cap over the last 24 hours.

Bank stocks are now set for their worst weekly performance since June 2020.

Meanwhile, three U.S. bank stocks are down 20%+ today.

These banks alone have over $500 billion in deposits.​

The 3 stocks down 20%+ are:

1. Silicon Valley Bank, $SIVB: -60%

2. First Republic Bank, $FRC: -31%

3. Signature Bank, $SBNY: -21%

We are on the verge of the 2nd largest bank collapse in US history and the largest since 2008.​

FDIC Shutters Silicon Valley Bank.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status...ra4e-mzfw&s=19
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Old 03-10-2023, 11:44 AM
 
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U.S. banks stocks exceed $100 billion in lost market cap over the last 24 hours.

Bank stocks are now set for their worst weekly performance since June 2020.

Meanwhile, three U.S. bank stocks are down 20%+ today.

These banks alone have over $500 billion in deposits.​

The 3 stocks down 20%+ are:

1. Silicon Valley Bank, $SIVB: -60%

2. First Republic Bank, $FRC: -31%

3. Signature Bank, $SBNY: -21%

We are on the verge of the 2nd largest bank collapse in US history and the largest since 2008.​

FDIC Shutters Silicon Valley Bank.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status...ra4e-mzfw&s=19
What is going to cause this massive bank failure?
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Old 03-10-2023, 11:52 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What is going to cause this massive bank failure?
No one can predict that just like no one could have predicted the 2008 collapse.

All it takes is one to cause the domino effect because so much is interconnected.
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Old 03-10-2023, 12:54 PM
 
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What is going to cause this massive bank failure?
Or maybe we are not. Everyone has acknowledged rate increases are intended to "break things". Well here's a broken piece. Could all banks come tumbling down? Well its not a 0% chance but pretty close to it. Businesses win and lose, here's one that has now lost for its shareholders. Others may too. However that's built into the math.

If we see a handful of closures the Fed will get what it desires, tighter monetary conditions. Those cause economic slowdowns. Lack of financing causes growth projects to get postponed or squashed. Hiring is reduced. Construction stalls. Yep, sounds like exactly what the Fed wanted. What the Fed doesn't want is systemic collapse of banking. They will intervene to prevent that.
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Old 03-10-2023, 02:32 PM
 
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What is going to cause this massive bank failure?

Nothing, at least yet; they'll paper it over for now; and sacrifice SVA bank like they did Lehman Bros. back in the day.
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Old 03-10-2023, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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FOMC Futures bets on a 25 point hike increased to 62% after the SVB news. The very backwards looking Fed has got stop the nonsense.
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Old 03-10-2023, 04:28 PM
 
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FOMC Futures bets on a 25 point hike increased to 62% after the SVB news. The very backwards looking Fed has got stop the nonsense.
The futures dropped before the closure of SVB. It's just a bunch of big gamblers reading into every Fed members mind and has little to do with reality. Powell talked tough that got this 50 bet going but it never really made sense. They will do 25 at a time until they are ready to stop barring crazy news.
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Old 03-11-2023, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Prices aren't coming down, best hope is they level off later this year. This is the result of the cost to run a business has increased dramatically. Better wages, more benefits costs, tangible goods cost more, it's what everybody was clamoring for, now it's here.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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There cannot be perpetual debt expansion in a finite realm. There cannot be perpetual GDP growth in a finite realm. Eventually, something must give- and something will give.

I have been predicting this for some time. We are staring at an imminent financial crisis- a financial crisis that should have happened in 2008, but an order of magnitude more severe and more punishing.
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