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I’m an adult who is working and I graduated from college decades ago. I did really well in school but I have been struggling with my career all my life, and I am worried that eventually I will end up unemployable.
Life lessons aren't taught in school; they're learned through experience - education simply provides a better foundation for those 'life lessons'. If you have 'struggled' for decades (or don't like your career), why haven't you done anything to change it/pursue another job?
What I learned in high school and college could fit in a thimble compared to what I've learned since then. Here's what I wish they taught me;
Tax law
first aid and basic medicine (knowledge of over the counter medication)
Office politics
Basic auto maintenance
Fiat cash management
Investing
Fire arms training
Emergency management
These are just some of the subjects that should be taught. I have become proficient at all these no thanks to formal education. All of these have been critical to having a productive life.
What I learned in high school and college could fit in a thimble compared to what I've learned since then. Here's what I wish they taught me;
Tax law
first aid and basic medicine (knowledge of over the counter medication)
Office politics
Basic auto maintenance
Fiat cash management
Investing
Fire arms training
Emergency management
These are just some of the subjects that should be taught. I have become proficient at all these no thanks to formal education. All of these have been critical to having a productive life.
Many people are graduating from high school with limited reading, writing, and math skills. By math I mean basic arithmetic, not calculus. The students who do well in high school and want to go college to become doctors, scientists, researchers, etc. must take as many advanced math and science classes as possible. What do you suggest dropping so that these classes can be taught?
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Then please tell me what other career options I have if my civil engineering career fails, which do not involve going back to college. Thank you.
Project Management. We hire a lot of General Engineer 801s in gov for example. These can be filled by any engineering degree because what we're looking for is people with experience who can lead and integrate a team of multiple engineering and science disciplines to accomplish big projects. After a certain level it's not about whether someone can design a structure or piping or electrical system, but can they integrate all those components into an aerospace facility for example. I'm trying to hire a General Engineer right now
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Originally Posted by IDoPhysicsPhD
Yes, but college is for academia and research. For industry jobs, use the appropriate mechanism... whether it's trade schools, professional training, or whatnot. We don't want to dilute academic programs.
That's way too limited a perception of what college does. A good college will provide training in how to do research. I look for it all the time in resumes and interviews. It's actually surprising to me how many colleges don't teach solid research methods.
Many people are graduating from high school with limited reading, writing, and math skills. By math I mean basic arithmetic, not calculus. The students who do well in high school and want to go college to become doctors, scientists, researchers, etc. must take as many advanced math and science classes as possible. What do you suggest dropping so that these classes can be taught?
It wouldn't be that hard actually to bring these back into school. Most used to be taught prior to the "college for everyone" mantra in most schools. A semester or two of shop and home ec covers most of the topics Garthur listed. Many schools used to have Rifle Team which taught firearms safety.
If you really need to find things to drop, well there's Art for one. Econ could spend more time on personal finance. And I'd seriously look at changing the requirement for four years of English/Lit/Language Arts/Whatever-they-call-it-now down to just three years. EGADS! I can hear the screams now. But seriously, do students really need 13 years of it? By that time if they don't know it, senior year isn't going to fix the previous 12 (k-11).
And, before things spin even more, I'm neither anti education or anti college. Science is what I do. Daughter is a physicist, son is current in college. My point isn't that we don't need college prep; rather much of what schools focus on isn't what's needed to prepare students for college or for the working world. By changing the high school curriculum, we'd actually better prepare students for what comes next.
Many people are graduating from high school with limited reading, writing, and math skills. By math I mean basic arithmetic, not calculus. The students who do well in high school and want to go college to become doctors, scientists, researchers, etc. must take as many advanced math and science classes as possible. What do you suggest dropping so that these classes can be taught?
I'm not suggesting dropping any of the current classes, I'm suggesting to add these classes and extend the school year because it's not news that college graduates are not equipped to handle the real life working world. Or they could take my recommendations and add one class each semester and not extend the year.
Life lessons aren't taught in school; they're learned through experience - education simply provides a better foundation for those 'life lessons'. If you have 'struggled' for decades (or don't like your career), why haven't you done anything to change it/pursue another job?
What career can I switch to that would not involve going back to college?
Project Management. We hire a lot of General Engineer 801s in gov for example. These can be filled by any engineering degree because what we're looking for is people with experience who can lead and integrate a team of multiple engineering and science disciplines to accomplish big projects. After a certain level it's not about whether someone can design a structure or piping or electrical system, but can they integrate all those components into an aerospace facility for example. I'm trying to hire a General Engineer right now
That is the worst possible career for me. I have zero experience, skills, or interest in project management.
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