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Old 02-09-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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Certainly not Palin. I don't even think she will run.

I heard it would take 100,000 new jobs per month to keep pace with the numbers losing their jobs.

This is not a recovery. The person that said it's all about jobs is 100% correct.
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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He is not my favorite person, and no i don't want any part of him again ever. However unless one has a crystal ball, no one can predict what will happen! things have been known to blow up in our faces, when we are so sure something is not going to happen!
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:55 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I think the American people are fickle and they can love you one day and hate you the next; then you can make a "comeback" a week later.

No body can predict who will win or lose in 2012.
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I think the American people are fickle and they can love you one day and hate you the next; then you can make a "comeback" a week later.

No body can predict who will win or lose in 2012.
not only Americans, people in general are fickle.

Nita
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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IF Obama loses my vote in 2012, it will be because the constitutional professor I elected failed to put the Patriot act in it's rightful place.
In May 2008, Senator Obama voted to continue what I consider illegal wiretapping, a key continuation of Patriot Act policies.

So, by your own logic, you should not have voted for him in 2008.
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:55 PM
 
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Certainly not Palin. I don't even think she will run.

I heard it would take 100,000 new jobs per month to keep pace with the numbers losing their jobs.

This is not a recovery. The person that said it's all about jobs is 100% correct.

The jobs number reported each month is a NET number so it's
(jobs created - jobs lost). It's NOT the raw number of jobs created.

To keep up with the growth in the size of the labor pool, we need to create a net of about 125,000 jobs/month to keep the UE rate at the SAME rate.

If we want significant decreases in the UE rate and to 'make up' for jobs lost, we'd need 300,000+ jobs/month (more like 400,00+ to make major gains).

Please keep in mind that the ONLY reason the UE rate is going down is based on Government manipulation and lies. They remove people from the labor pool, which artificially lowers the UE rate. Total BS.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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^It's not a "lie". It's the way that the index is computed. You might not agree with the index's use, and I tend to believe it is overemphasized and abused. But I wouldn't say it is manipulation of the numbers.

That said, I think that something people are not paying enough attention to is the relationship between all of this Middle East unrest and the continuing rising price of oil/gasoline. The national average for gasoline just hit a 28-month high this week. That is huge news. For a country so dependent on oil and gasoline to power our daily lives and hence our economy, if gas approaches and exceed $4.00/gallon this summer, you will once again see consumer spending decrease and the economic indicators drop. There will be a ripple effect similar to the summer of 2008 when tourism went down and consumer spending dropped not just from job loss but because of increased spending on fuel costs.

This is very problematic and people are not highlighting this enough right now. In fact, if gas prices continue to rise beyond summer 2008 levels, you can bet the US economic "recovery", however minor or major you want to acknowledge, will slow dramatically.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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^It's not a "lie". It's the way that the index is computed. You might not agree with the index's use, and I tend to believe it is overemphasized and abused. But I wouldn't say it is manipulation of the numbers.

That said, I think that something people are not paying enough attention to is the relationship between all of this Middle East unrest and the continuing rising price of oil/gasoline. The national average for gasoline just hit a 28-month high this week. That is huge news. For a country so dependent on oil and gasoline to power our daily lives and hence our economy, if gas approaches and exceed $4.00/gallon this summer, you will once again see consumer spending decrease and the economic indicators drop. There will be a ripple effect similar to the summer of 2008 when tourism went down and consumer spending dropped not just from job loss but because of increased spending on fuel costs.

This is very problematic and people are not highlighting this enough right now. In fact, if gas prices continue to rise beyond summer 2008 levels, you can bet the US economic "recovery", however minor or major you want to acknowledge, will slow dramatically.
A valid point on the first & a valid concern on the second.

Ken
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:32 AM
 
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5 reasons why Obama will win

1. Sarah Palin
2. Newt Gingrich
3. Mike Huckabee
4. Bobby Jindal
5. Jeb Bush
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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5 reasons why Obama will win

1. Sarah Palin
2. Newt Gingrich
3. Mike Huckabee
4. Bobby Jindal
5. Jeb Bush
Yes! Mitt Romney isn't on the list. That means Obama does have a shot at losing.
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