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many men don't pay child support doesn't matter we have laws against it or that some are caught and punished there are still thousands of men who don't pay. supporting a man opting out of child support I would base on the individual situation. it is not my life or my child the man is effecting so I have no real business "voting" if he has the right to opt out. generally speaking once a child is born, both parties should be responsible.
Sure, lots of men don't pay child support. Lots of people steal and don't get caught. Some even get away with murder. They are all still wrong. Men still are required by law to support their children. The fact that some men get away with no doing so, doesn't change that fact.
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui
not promoting "special" rights. should women be not be protected by the USC because we have a womb? all men....including wo-man in the US are equal
You contradict yourself in one sentence. So you are saying that women have special rights because they have a womb? They have womb rights? Then men and women aren't equal under the law.
If a woman gets pregnant and decides to abort the pregnancy, then father of the child can't stop her legally. If a woman gets pregant and decides she wants to have the baby, then the father can't prevent her from having the child. And then he has to pay child support for 18 years or face imprisonment. Doesn't seem equal to me. But that must be because of those special womb rights you were talking about.
Sure, lots of men don't pay child support. Lots of people steal and don't get caught. Some even get away with murder. They are all still wrong. Men still are required by law to support their children. The fact that some men get away with no doing so, doesn't change that fact.
You contradict yourself in one sentence. So you are saying that women have special rights because they have a womb? They have womb rights? Then men and women aren't equal under the law.
If a woman gets pregnant and decides to abort the pregnancy, then father of the child can't stop her legally. If a woman gets pregant and decides she wants to have the baby, then the father can't prevent her from having the child. And then he has to pay child support for 18 years or face imprisonment. Doesn't seem equal to me. But that must be because of those special womb rights you were talking about.
no the intricacies of men vs women and this situation are indeed different in that one has a womb, one has to carry, deliver and rear sometimes alone the result. however when you talk about the USC it does not say all are equal except women. if men could have babies abortion would of been legal 100 or more years ago.
women have the same rights. our bodies are our own just as a man's is. doesn't matter if I have a womb or not. no special perks just the right to privacy. butt out not your concern what women do with it. any input outsiders want to have with what a woman does with her own body boils down to wanting to control over it and to pass judgment america isn't the middle east. most of us man or woman don't want others telling us how to live.
Slap all you want - the patch, implant are damn pretty
effective - not to mention in your thirties
Using abortion as anyone's number one issue to pick a
Presidential candidate, with so much more going on, is
an old topic that belongs with you, your conscious, not
on the world stage.
I agree, one can not pick a candidate based on one or two issues, especially one like this that isn't going to be changed in the near future anyway.
And yes, we all know, regardless of what some would like to preach, that many forms of birth control are close to 100% safe, even the old diaphram is used correctly.
Nita
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america isn't the middle east. most of us man or woman don't want others telling us how to live.
