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Agenda 21 is more than corporatism. It is the birth of collectivism at the expense of individualism. You are just a number, and only matter as much as you can contribute to what they consider the greater good.
I listened to about half of it. Didn't seem to be new info. I will go back and check it again. As to collectivism. Can't argue that, but corporatism is the main structure. "Global Inc" is being formed.
Big corporations as "people" can be psychopathic in nature. (no I am not anti-business)There was a documentary that was discussing evaluating these Big Corps like other "persons". These environments attract "psychopaths", as well. They can create large numbers of secondary psychopathy through policies and environment.
Yes there is a "socialist" overtone to most of it. When you have intertwining of govt and corps, as we have. Seems to be corporate fascism.
People do not own their "homes" anyway in most places. Plenty of ways they can take it. I did find it interesting that they were studying the implementation of Agenda 21 and its effects on costs and housing especially through the changes being implemented. I think the approach they were taking makes a lot of sense.
I listened to about half of it. Didn't seem to be new info. I will go back and check it again. As to collectivism. Can't argue that, but corporatism is the main structure. "Global Inc" is being formed.
Big corporations as "people" can be psychopathic in nature. (no I am not anti-business)There was a documentary that was discussing evaluating these Big Corps like other "persons". These environments attract "psychopaths", as well. They can create large numbers of secondary psychopathy through policies and environment.
Yes there is a "socialist" overtone to most of it. When you have intertwining of govt and corps, as we have. Seems to be corporate fascism.
People do not own their "homes" anyway in most places. Plenty of ways they can take it. I did find it interesting that they were studying the implementation of Agenda 21 and its effects on costs and housing especially through the changes being implemented. I think the approach they were taking makes a lot of sense.
What makes sense, Agenda 21?
The corporatism is a reflection of gov't taking them over too. They are dependents also, we all will belong to the State. As this Obamacare is implemented, many people will pay the low fine instead of jumping on-board, but as the fines rise, we will eventually sign up for the gov't program, as the insurance co's go out of business.
Gov't is not supposed to compete with business, they are supposed to regulate it, which means keeping it regular or abiding by the SAME standards.
They are also not supposed to interfere with states rights to regulate business within their own borders.
And I don't know where the gov't gets it's authority to tell us we cannot purchase a legal product off the internet, such as cigarettes. What the hell?
What makes sense, Agenda 21?
The corporatism is a reflection of gov't taking them over too. They are dependents also, we all will belong to the State. As this Obamacare is implemented, many people will pay the low fine instead of jumping on-board, but as the fines rise, we will eventually sign up for the gov't program, as the insurance co's go out of business.
Gov't is not supposed to compete with business, they are supposed to regulate it, which means keeping it regular or abiding by the SAME standards.
They are also not supposed to interfere with states rights to regulate business within their own borders.
And I don't know where the gov't gets it's authority to tell us we cannot purchase a legal product off the internet, such as cigarettes. What the hell?
I was referring to the video emilybh posted. There are actually other parts. The "citizen's" group were studying and organizing locally and across the US to have methods and tools to combat this and to help city managers etc...
If you look at the history and the financial records yes the govt and big corp are intertwined. No, I do not think that intertwining is a "good" thing. However, only "we the people" are going to change it.
I was referring to the video emilybh posted. There are actually other parts. The "citizen's" group were studying and organizing locally and across the US to have methods and tools to combat this and to help city managers etc...
If you look at the history and the financial records yes the govt and big corp are intertwined. No, I do not think that intertwining is a "good" thing. However, only "we the people" are going to change it.
Oh YES! The Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports is yet ANOTHER way all governments -- even local governments lie to us about the total financial picture. They basically have had for a looooonnnnnggg time, two sets of books. Each year they publish a budget for all to see usually showing how the revenues from taxes weren't enough to cover the operating expenses for the year which is used to justify the raising of taxes year after year.
What they never show is the
Comprehensive Annual Financial Report that comes out ever year in June that shows how all the money invested for retirement plans is growing and compounding as well as how all the assets land government buildings are worth.
There is generally so much money stashed away that we could all stop paying taxes, and there is more than enough in those accounts to cover regular operating expenses and then some from now until kingdom come!
Oh YES! The Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports is yet ANOTHER way all governments -- even local governments lie to us about the total financial picture. They basically have had for a looooonnnnnggg time, two sets of books. Each year they publish a budget for all to see usually showing how the revenues from taxes weren't enough to cover the operating expenses for the year which is used to justify the raising of taxes year after year.
What they never show is the
Comprehensive Annual Financial Report that comes out ever year in June that shows how all the money invested for retirement plans is growing and compounding as well as how all the assets land government buildings are worth.
There is generally so much money stashed away that we could all stop paying taxes, and there is more than enough in those accounts to cover regular operating expenses and then some from now until kingdom come!
Some are better than others. Meaning they carry forward balances. Others stopped doing that in the late 90's. I think all of them require other reports to see more details on funds. So you get the true money picture. Taxes could be eliminated with the same method they use now. It does have important implications when looking at corporitization and "debt slavery". This is an interesting take on "ward" and "investment manager".
Some are better than others. Meaning they carry forward balances. Others stopped doing that in the late 90's. I think all of them require other reports to see more details on funds. So you get the true money picture. Taxes could be eliminated with the same method they use now. It does have important implications when looking at corporitization and "debt slavery". This is an interesting take on "ward" and "investment manager".
The guy narrating the first clip should redo his narrative starting out with the correct name of the reports. They aren't the "Consolidated Annual Financial Reports". Rather they are the "Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports."
Wow. The Mayor, in the second clip, might as well have said, "In government extortion is perfectly acceptable. We need X gazzillions in reserve". What a SCAM government is.
The guy narrating the first clip should redo his narrative starting out with the correct name of the reports. They aren't the "Consolidated Annual Financial Reports". Rather they are the "Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports."
Yeah, I find it interesting how others are researching this on their own. I thought his comments on the CAFRs and the debt paradigm important. We can talk about the FED, but it's just one aspect. The SLC Mayor plainly stated the CEO of the new police corporation is now the sheriff. In Delaware, they have apparently stripped sheriffs of their arresting powers.
You could probably trace the "corporate" idea back further at least w/ the "districting". Different people have different views on this. However, it has been evolving and consolidating with the help of govt and bankers.
The Minnesota delegate story is good to hear on RP.
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