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Old 10-06-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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Look! Look! See Ron Paul surge!!

GOP Primary

Connecticut, PPP, 9/22 - 9/25: Perry 18, Romney 25, Paul 10, Bachmann 8, Cain 10, Gingrich 10, Santorum 3, Huntsman 3
http://www.nationalpolls.com/connecticut.html

Georgia, Insider Advantage, 10/3 - 10/3: Perry 9, Romney 10, Paul 5, Bachmann 1, Cain 41, Gingrich 17, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/georgia.html

North Carolina, PPP, 9/30 - 10/3: Perry 15, Romney 17, Paul 6, Bachmann 6, Cain 27, Gingrich 17, Santorum 2, Huntsman 2
http://www.nationalpolls.com/north-carolina.html

Nebraska, PPP, 9/30 - 10/2: Perry 10, Romney 13, Paul 5, Bachmann 10, Cain 30, Gingrich 16, Santorum 4, Huntsman 2
http://www.nationalpolls.com/nebraska.html

West Virginia, PPP, 9/30 - 10/2: Perry 15, Romney 16, Paul 6, Bachmann 8, Cain 24, Gingrich 18, Santorum 3, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/west-virginia.html

National, Quinnipiac, 9/27 - 10/3: Perry 14, Romney 22, Paul 6, Bachmann 3, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 1
National, CBS News, 9/28 - 10/2: Perry 12, Romney 17, Paul 7, Bachmann 4, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 2
National, ABC, 9/29 - 10/2: Perry 17, Romney 25, Paul 9, Bachmann 7, Cain 17, Gingrich 9, Santorum 2, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/national.html

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Old 10-06-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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This is the part that I don't get at all! How is a guy preaching fiscal restraint, radical but the guy preaching "a chicken in every pot" isn't?
If that were his only message, it would be one thing.

What Ron Paul represents is libertarianism, which is a radical belief in itself. Such people believe in very weak governments. The problem with that is that there are no world examples of thriving nations that have weak governments.

Paul doesn't believe in any regulation and doesn't believe that the national government should aid disaster victims.

That all makes him far out of t he mainstream of most voters.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:49 AM
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Look! Look! See Ron Paul surge!!

GOP Primary

Connecticut, PPP, 9/22 - 9/25: Perry 18, Romney 25, Paul 10, Bachmann 8, Cain 10, Gingrich 10, Santorum 3, Huntsman 3
http://www.nationalpolls.com/connecticut.html

Georgia, Insider Advantage, 10/3 - 10/3: Perry 9, Romney 10, Paul 5, Bachmann 1, Cain 41, Gingrich 17, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/georgia.html

North Carolina, PPP, 9/30 - 10/3: Perry 15, Romney 17, Paul 6, Bachmann 6, Cain 27, Gingrich 17, Santorum 2, Huntsman 2
http://www.nationalpolls.com/north-carolina.html

Nebraska, PPP, 9/30 - 10/2: Perry 10, Romney 13, Paul 5, Bachmann 10, Cain 30, Gingrich 16, Santorum 4, Huntsman 2
http://www.nationalpolls.com/nebraska.html

West Virginia, PPP, 9/30 - 10/2: Perry 15, Romney 16, Paul 6, Bachmann 8, Cain 24, Gingrich 18, Santorum 3, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/west-virginia.html

National, Quinnipiac, 9/27 - 10/3: Perry 14, Romney 22, Paul 6, Bachmann 3, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 1
National, CBS News, 9/28 - 10/2: Perry 12, Romney 17, Paul 7, Bachmann 4, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 2
National, ABC, 9/29 - 10/2: Perry 17, Romney 25, Paul 9, Bachmann 7, Cain 17, Gingrich 9, Santorum 2, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/national.html

Why would anyone vote for bachmann
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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Why would anyone vote for bachmann
They are as batsh*t crazy as she is??
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh please. Now booing a candidate means that his popularity goes up? Is this a linear relationship (i.e., cheering a candidate means he is less liked)?

I respect people's choice to support Ron Paul. But he cannot win a primary and won't win a nationwide election. He was incoherent at points in the last debate. And his views on complete isolationism are simply undoable in the world in which we live.
lmao where was he incoherent? You didn't watch the debate and you don't know his policies. He's never been an isolationist. That is what the uninformed and agenda driven like to repeat because the person they back is full of failed more of the same policies so they have to deflect. Please list the policies of your candidate that worked.
Non intervention - trade with all nations entangling alliances with none.

Quit listening to sound bites and talking heads. If you want to know the policies of a candidate listen to THAT candidate and look at their voting record.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Look! Look! See Ron Paul surge!!

GOP Primary

Connecticut, PPP, 9/22 - 9/25: Perry 18, Romney 25, Paul 10, Bachmann 8, Cain 10, Gingrich 10, Santorum 3, Huntsman 3
http://www.nationalpolls.com/connecticut.html

Georgia, Insider Advantage, 10/3 - 10/3: Perry 9, Romney 10, Paul 5, Bachmann 1, Cain 41, Gingrich 17, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/georgia.html

North Carolina, PPP, 9/30 - 10/3: Perry 15, Romney 17, Paul 6, Bachmann 6, Cain 27, Gingrich 17, Santorum 2, Huntsman 2
http://www.nationalpolls.com/north-carolina.html

Nebraska, PPP, 9/30 - 10/2: Perry 10, Romney 13, Paul 5, Bachmann 10, Cain 30, Gingrich 16, Santorum 4, Huntsman 2
http://www.nationalpolls.com/nebraska.html

West Virginia, PPP, 9/30 - 10/2: Perry 15, Romney 16, Paul 6, Bachmann 8, Cain 24, Gingrich 18, Santorum 3, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/west-virginia.html

National, Quinnipiac, 9/27 - 10/3: Perry 14, Romney 22, Paul 6, Bachmann 3, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 1
National, CBS News, 9/28 - 10/2: Perry 12, Romney 17, Paul 7, Bachmann 4, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 2
National, ABC, 9/29 - 10/2: Perry 17, Romney 25, Paul 9, Bachmann 7, Cain 17, Gingrich 9, Santorum 2, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/national.html

Which state carries more weight vote wise, California or Florida?
Who won the Florida poll? We all know it was Cain because the media was all over it.
Who won the California poll? We know it was Ron Paul because the media ignored it.

truth is treason in a government of lies

National Press Club October 5th

Ron Paul Remarks on 2012 Elections and Washington Politics - C-SPAN Video Library

41 minute mark Ron Paul talks about the media, Hardly anyone in the room knew he won California
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:47 AM
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They are as batsh*t crazy as she is??
My sentiments exactly.

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lmao where was he incoherent? You didn't watch the debate and you don't know his policies. He's never been an isolationist. That is what the uninformed and agenda driven like to repeat because the person they back is full of failed more of the same policies so they have to deflect. Please list the policies of your candidate that worked.
Non intervention - trade with all nations entangling alliances with none.

Quit listening to sound bites and talking heads. If you want to know the policies of a candidate listen to THAT candidate and look at their voting record.
I wish more folks understood that point. Thank you.

non-interventionism = free trade, free travel, ACTUAL diplomacy..the idea that the president cannot just declare war without congress approval. (the UN is not enough)
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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Which state carries more weight vote wise, California or Florida?
Who won the Florida poll? We all know it was Cain because the media was all over it.
Who won the California poll? We know it was Ron Paul because the media ignored it.

truth is treason in a government of lies

National Press Club October 5th

Ron Paul Remarks on 2012 Elections and Washington Politics - C-SPAN Video Library

41 minute mark Ron Paul talks about the media, Hardly anyone in the room knew he won California
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National, Quinnipiac, 9/27 - 10/3: Perry 14, Romney 22, Paul 6, Bachmann 3, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 1
National, CBS News, 9/28 - 10/2: Perry 12, Romney 17, Paul 7, Bachmann 4, Cain 17, Gingrich 8, Santorum 3, Huntsman 2
National, ABC, 9/29 - 10/2: Perry 17, Romney 25, Paul 9, Bachmann 7, Cain 17, Gingrich 9, Santorum 2, Huntsman 1
http://www.nationalpolls.com/national.html
These are national polls.
Paul's chances of getting the GOP nomination are zero.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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These are national polls.
Paul's chances of getting the GOP nomination are zero.
Why listen to you? You've been wrong too much and back candidates with horrible polices.
Why would someone not vote for the only person in Congress who told us from the minute the housing bill passed we would suffer econonomically as well as told us years before 9/11 happened that it would happen and gave the reasons why?

Quite trying to be right, you aren't very good at it
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:50 PM
 
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Mark my words ... All of your who are against Ron Paul. If your candidate wins, then i guarantee almost all of you will be hating them by the end of their first term, just like nearly everyone who voted for Obama ... They are all going to be doing the same thing that Obama is doing and that Bush did before him and our economy is going to crash worse then it ever has before.
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