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View Poll Results: Who will win the debate tonight?
Romney 11 17.46%
Perry 1 1.59%
Cain 4 6.35%
Gingrich 8 12.70%
Sanctorum 2 3.17%
Bachmann 2 3.17%
Paul 34 53.97%
Huntsman 1 1.59%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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Is that so!!!! They have only one plan and it's the same plan they have had for ever. Cut taxes for the rich, gut the regulations that protect both consummers and the environment. Diminish education, get rid of livable wages, forget alternative sources of energy, either steal the money from social security or give it to wall street to administer, Keep on trying the trickle down theory until everyone but the elite is poverty stricken, let the poor die if they get sick and on and on in that same vein.

You know that definition of insanity? That one that says that you are insane if you keep trying the same failing thing over and over again hoping against hope that it will work at some point. That not only defines insanity it defines the GOP.

You know, we have a very strong right wing government here in Canada and they are anything but stupid. Their policies are well laid out in black and white. No matter what the file is or what the issue is the Conservative party of Canada will have a well written and researched paper laying out exactly what that policy is and what the intended results of that policy will be.

To be a political leader in this country wether left, right or middle you HAVE to be a highly intellegent person that has a good grasp of the entire body politic. You have got to be able to answer any question with facts figures and stats that will support your position. You have to have an intimate knowledge of the workings of the entire government and every department within the government. You have got to know how each province operates and be very familiar with the conflicts between the the different levels of government. You absolutely have to be a constitutional expert because everything you do will be proscribed by that document. In Canada becoming a political leader is usually a step down for these people because it demands the kind of person that has had huge sucess in life because of their abilities. Therefore they are in it to truely be public servants and because they have a vision for this country.

When I look at this crop of GOP hopefuls, what do I see? I see a collection of Has beens, never beens, ignoramusus, zealots, know nothings, self serving wannabes and not one single person that is fit to be the leader of your country except Romney and he is a democrat.

Where are the conservatives of real weight? Where is the conservative leader of integrity, honesty, brilliance, vision and worth? You just don't have any of those and do you know why? It's because such a person would not put themselves in thrall to corporate and financial interests against the interests of the people.

Even though I'm not a conservative myself I have no doubt at all that the conservative government of Canada puts the interests of the country and the people first and always ahead of any special interest.

The American conservative will ALWAYS put the special interests ahead of the country and the people because he or she is OWNED by those interests.


You obviously didn't listen to what several of them had to say or know much of anything about some of their backgrounds, educations, and experiences. While I will agree that a few of them need more experience, several of those candidates have amazing resumes and backgrounds. It is just not knowledgeable to say they don't. Several of them also have very admirable records of leadership.

If only Obama had had half as much experience as some of these candidates. We have seen what his lack thereof has done to this country and we don't need to make that mistake again.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:06 PM
 
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[quote=lucknow;21651777]Is that so!!!! They have only one plan and it's the same plan they have had for ever. Cut taxes for the rich, gut the regulations that protect both consummers and the environment. Diminish education, get rid of livable wages, forget alternative sources of energy, either steal the money from social security or give it to wall street to administer, Keep on trying the trickle down theory until everyone but the elite is poverty stricken, let the poor die if they get sick and on and on in that same vein.

You know that definition of insanity? That one that says that you are insane if you keep trying the same failing thing over and over again hoping against hope that it will work at some point. That not only defines insanity it defines the GOP.

You know, we have a very strong right wing government here in Canada and they are anything but stupid. Their policies are well laid out in black and white. No matter what the file is or what the issue is the Conservative party of Canada will have a well written and researched paper laying out exactly what that policy is and what the intended results of that policy will be.

To be a political leader in this country wether left, right or middle you HAVE to be a highly intellegent person that has a good grasp of the entire body politic. You have got to be able to answer any question with facts figures and stats that will support your position. You have to have an intimate knowledge of the workings of the entire government and every department within the government. You have got to know how each province operates and be very familiar with the conflicts between the the different levels of government. You absolutely have to be a constitutional expert because everything you do will be proscribed by that document. In Canada becoming a political leader is usually a step down for these people because it demands the kind of person that has had huge sucess in life because of their abilities. Therefore they are in it to truely be public servants and because they have a vision for this country.

When I look at this crop of GOP hopefuls, what do I see? I see a collection of Has beens, never beens, ignoramusus, zealots, know nothings, self serving wannabes and not one single person that is fit to be the leader of your country except Romney and he is a democrat.

Where are the conservatives of real weight? Where is the conservative leader of integrity, honesty, brilliance, vision and worth? You just don't have any of those and do you know why? It's because such a person would not put themselves in thrall to corporate and financial interests against the interests of the people.

Even though I'm not a conservative myself I have no doubt at all that the conservative government of Canada puts the interests of the country and the people first and always ahead of any special interest.

The American conservative will ALWAYS put the special interests ahead of the country and the people because he or she is OWNED by those interests.[/quote]




Sort of like Solyndra...only to name one in many 'special interests' of Obama...shall I go on?
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Default dumb Perry draws a blank during the debate

WoW more and more and like George Bush

Rick Perry draws a blank in latest debate flub - WGHP (http://www.myfox8.com/news/nationworld/sns-viral-video-rick-perry-draws-a-blank-at-debate,0,1087912.htmlstory - broken link)
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:10 PM
 
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WoW more and more and like George Bush

Rick Perry draws a blank in latest debate flub - WGHP (http://www.myfox8.com/news/nationworld/sns-viral-video-rick-perry-draws-a-blank-at-debate,0,1087912.htmlstory - broken link)
Just hope more and more people see that, I live in Texas, which he is a Governor of, you dont want him getting his way.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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WoW more and more and like George Bush

Rick Perry draws a blank in latest debate flub - WGHP (http://www.myfox8.com/news/nationworld/sns-viral-video-rick-perry-draws-a-blank-at-debate,0,1087912.htmlstory - broken link)
Is he dumber or smarter than Obama without a teleprompter? In your estimation...
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Is that so!!!! They have only one plan and it's the same plan they have had for ever. Cut taxes for the rich, gut the regulations that protect both consummers and the environment. Diminish education, get rid of livable wages, forget alternative sources of energy, either steal the money from social security or give it to wall street to administer, Keep on trying the trickle down theory until everyone but the elite is poverty stricken, let the poor die if they get sick and on and on in that same vein.

You know that definition of insanity? That one that says that you are insane if you keep trying the same failing thing over and over again hoping against hope that it will work at some point. That not only defines insanity it defines the GOP.

You know, we have a very strong right wing government here in Canada and they are anything but stupid. Their policies are well laid out in black and white. No matter what the file is or what the issue is the Conservative party of Canada will have a well written and researched paper laying out exactly what that policy is and what the intended results of that policy will be.

To be a political leader in this country wether left, right or middle you HAVE to be a highly intellegent person that has a good grasp of the entire body politic. You have got to be able to answer any question with facts figures and stats that will support your position. You have to have an intimate knowledge of the workings of the entire government and every department within the government. You have got to know how each province operates and be very familiar with the conflicts between the the different levels of government. You absolutely have to be a constitutional expert because everything you do will be proscribed by that document. In Canada becoming a political leader is usually a step down for these people because it demands the kind of person that has had huge sucess in life because of their abilities. Therefore they are in it to truely be public servants and because they have a vision for this country.

When I look at this crop of GOP hopefuls, what do I see? I see a collection of Has beens, never beens, ignoramusus, zealots, know nothings, self serving wannabes and not one single person that is fit to be the leader of your country except Romney and he is a democrat.

Where are the conservatives of real weight? Where is the conservative leader of integrity, honesty, brilliance, vision and worth? You just don't have any of those and do you know why? It's because such a person would not put themselves in thrall to corporate and financial interests against the interests of the people.

Even though I'm not a conservative myself I have no doubt at all that the conservative government of Canada puts the interests of the country and the people first and always ahead of any special interest.

The American conservative will ALWAYS put the special interests ahead of the country and the people because he or she is OWNED by those interests.
Wow, there is so much you DON'T know about Conservatives!
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:26 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Another Ron Paul, clear win.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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WE are talking about the GOP here not the Democrats. Why is it that it's not possible to discuss the failings of the conservative forces in the USA without people injecting, The dems, the dems,the dems. It's irelevant. It makes as much sence as when discussing how bad things are in El Slavadore someone jumps in and says,"Ya think so Eh! well what about Gabbon???

If the GOP was not so horrible then you would not have to worry about the Dems because the GOP would most likely win the election. I predict that with this field they will most certainly will lose and you will be stuck with the DEMS and all their warts for another term.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:35 PM
 
Location: The Garden State
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The only winner tonight was President Obama.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Wow, there is so much you DON'T know about Conservatives!
I know lots about conservatives. Enough to be able to tell you that the GOP does not meet the definition and the real conservatives in the country have no option at all.

That is an interesting idea all together. We had the same problem here in Canada. There was almost no difference at all between the LIBERALS, THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVES AND THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY. They were all left of center, big government, centralized power parties. Our present government began as the Reform Party in 1988. A real conservative alternative. It took a while but there are enough real conservative voters in Canada that this new conservative party is the governing party in Canada. Not only are they the governing party but they have a majority government that means in our system that anything they want, as long as it's constitutional they get. If you want to see the results of a true conservative government in action then just observe how well Canada does or doesn't in the next 4 years.
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