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Old 11-08-2011, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I would hope so, it's insane.

If you are pregnant and don't know it you can have criminal charges brought against you if you do anything that might put the bundle of cells at risk, or manslaughter charges if you miscarry. I wonder if they would go all law and order on you looking to see if you did engage in at risk behavior for criminal charges if you did spontaneously.

In vitro fertilization would stop immediately since they implant more then one fertilized group of cells because they usually don't take, because it would be criminal.

You couldn't do anything if you are forcibly raped by a relative. Nothing is more enlightening then spending tens of thousands of dollars in medical expenses and fun related health issues with a 9 month reminder of the person who forced you down and did it to you against your will.

Seriously, it would be hard to find a more backwards law in America. I bet there has been but I don't want to be that disappointed with humanity.
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:34 PM
 
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The idiots who came up with this amendment probably would have bankrupted Mississippi battling the Supreme Court on this issue. Glad it failed.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:00 AM
 
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Conservatives = Love the zygote. Hate the person. Especially if the person wasn't born rich. Or Christian. Or heterosexual.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:55 AM
 
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Conservatives = Love the zygote. Hate the person. Especially if the person wasn't born rich. Or Christian. Or heterosexual.
So true.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The idiots who came up with this amendment probably would have bankrupted Mississippi battling the Supreme Court on this issue. Glad it failed.


The measure failed but the issue is far from being settled.

The compromise language of Roe defining life and personhood lacks logic because it was never intended to be logical, just agreeable.

We all know the same same things because they are self-evident.

The pro-abortion people can argue the issue of when life begins at least as long as the pro-life people can present logical reasons for why conception is the only event which can possibly change that which is not a person into a person.

No one really changes their public stance because they hear a strong argument from the other side, but in reality there is no need to because we all understand life begins at conception.

The difference in our stated positions comes down to our experience with responsibility and accountability.

Those of us who were raised to be accountable for our actions and who were charged with specific responsibilities while growing up will lean pro-life because we understand that our rights cannot be divorced from responsibility and accountability without the rights of others being denied.

If you didn't already know that, I've probably already lost you.

Suffice to say that when those who create life are no longer accountable for doing so and when the same individuals are no longer responsible for the well-being of the life they have created, imaginative rationalizations about who is or is not a person will be needed to compensate for a definable absence of common sense and decency.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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"Mississippi would have become the first state to define a fertilized egg as a person, a measure which was aimed at outlawing abortion in the state but, opponents contended, would have led to all kinds of unintended consequences.

In the end, those concerns won out in a strongly anti-abortion state. The amendment trailed 59 percent to 41 percent with more than half of precincts reporting. The Associated Press has said it will fail."

It's scary that this foolishness actually made it on the ballot.

Anti-abortion ‘personhood’ amendment fails in Mississippi - The Washington Post
I'm so glad reason and logic have trumped zealous politicians wishing to control some of our most personal and private rights.

The Republican agenda of taking away personal decisions regarding intimate matters is doomed to failure and will be the "undoing" of the G.O.P.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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This was very flawed and had numerous problems. It's another example of going way too far to the extreme and people just not buying it. I am prolife, but this was too much.
Even Haley Barbour had a problem with the bill. You are right, sometimes the radicals (on either side) go way overboard.

Nita
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:55 AM
 
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We should focus on policies that help reduce unwanted pregnancies. I feel that is the better way to go about the issue.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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Pro-choicer here, yes we had that same amendment in Colorado a few years back and it didn't pass either. I may have said it before somewhere else, but it wasn't the bill that I thought was nonsense as much as the way it was proposed; the wording was vague and though most intelligent people could grasp the meaning of it, I just personally felt offended that somebody actually thought they could fool everyone with their vagueness, and therefore the bill was an insult to most voters' intelligence.

I would never get an abortion personally but I don't feel that it's my right to tell others what to do.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:11 AM
 
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This refutes the widespread prejudice that Mississippians are uneducated rednecks.
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