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Old 11-09-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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Why does everyone care what Mississippi or Ohio does?
Worry about your own states.
Because the issues being voted on in these states are big issues and serve as an indicator of the political climate.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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Why does everyone care what Mississippi or Ohio does?
Worry about your own states.
Because these elections were indicators of where the country is going. Abortion will not be outlawed, no matter how much the pro-lifers want it to be, and unions members and their supporters will always fight back hard.

The votes in Ohio and Mississippi will galvanize similarly-minded voters in other states.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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Half of Mississippi's counties are majority black, and black people make use of abortion services more often as a percent of their race than white people do. I think that is one of the bigger reasons why it looks like it's going to fail.
Then why did a white Republican easily win the governor's race in MS?
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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I was badly written, and even people who were staunchly pro-life voted against it.
Badly written?

Here is Initiative 26:
Should the term “person” be defined to include every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning, or equivalent thereof?
http://www.sos.ms.gov/links/election...odPetition.pdf

It's only 20 words long. The 'writing' is just fine-- it's the concept that is bad.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:07 AM
 
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I was badly written, and even people who were staunchly pro-life voted against it.
Yeah, that's what I'd be saying too if I was a nutty right-winger who lost.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Absolutely. These right wing extremist have overestimated their base, which seems to grow smaller and smaller daily.
These are over zealous bible thumpers, not right-wing. If the dems were not so anti-religion and pro-abort, they'd be left-wing kooks instead.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Even Red state Mississippi has enough intelligent voters to shoot down this stupid amendment. Mississippi, there is hope for you after all.


Mississippi 'Personhood' Amendment Vote Fails
Excellent News!
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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These are over zealous bible thumpers, not right-wing. If the dems were not so anti-religion and pro-abort, they'd be left-wing kooks instead.
Hmmm. Wasn't this a Republican initiative? Democrats are not anti religion. Where did you get that idea? Pro choice is probably a democrat issue, but there are many republicans who are also pro choice. In fact the majority of Americans are.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Hey, it's the Bare Assertion Fallacy. Haven't seen that in the wild for awhile.


Yeah, a pretty wild and baseless assumption...what kind of a nut believes something like that?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

The Declaration of Independence
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:56 PM
 
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Yeah, a pretty wild and baseless assumption...what kind of a nut believes something like that?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

The Declaration of Independence
How in the name of all that's holy and unholy did you make the leap of logic from the personhood of a fertilized ovum to the DOI?
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