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Obviously you prefer a dictatorship and no elections.
Quite the opposite, that is why I will never vote for a GOP candidate for secretary of state, or any position that allows them power over vote counting. Nor will I vote in a GOP primary unless I know someone running for moral support.
Instead if I can I will do my best to make sure as many Democrats and independents are in the counting room as possible. Obviously, I have no say over this in other states, so there really is not much I can do.
Trusting the GOP with running an election is like trusting a crack addict with an $100 bill. You really shouldn't be surprised when it doesn't work out.
The thing that stinks of corruption: Iowa had to move all the vote counting to a secret location, then "lost" several ballot boxes. As you may remember, it was a "missing" box of ballots that gave Romney the temporary victory and another that returned victory back to Santorum. Did they ever find all the lost votes? It's amazing how under-reported that has been. Now the county in which 70% of Nevadans live seems to be having difficulty counting their votes. What in the world is going on here? If it's just gross incompetence, why does has it only happened in states where Ron Paul seems to be having strong showing?
The biggest reason I have an easy time accepting the concept of nearly criminal media misreporting and bias is because I've sat back and watched them do it to certain religions for many decades. Comparative religion being one of my favorite diversions, I know the straight story on most, so I sat there watching the MSM lie and exaggerate and sensationalize and mischaracterize for ages now. I've gotten quite familiar with the tactics they like to use, even if I can't for the life of me sort out why they are so massively biased.
Granted, New Hampshire was a state where Ron Paul did very well and there was no controversy. That's good to see. Florida and South Carolina didn't suddenly have "technical difficulties" midway through counting the vote. So why did it happen in Iowa and Nevada??
When there was no conspiracy and the Democrats were actively trying to steal the election in Florida in 2000, the outcry of conspiracy and the media coverage was all front and center. So why isn't this getting the same kind of coverage? The tone from the media is, "Oh well. Ho Hum. We'll just wait for them to figure it out."
The thing that stinks of corruption: Iowa had to move all the vote counting to a secret location, then "lost" several ballot boxes. As you may remember, it was a "missing" box of ballots that gave Romney the temporary victory and another that returned victory back to Santorum. Did they ever find all the lost votes? It's amazing how under-reported that has been. Now the county in which 70% of Nevadans live seems to be having difficulty counting their votes. What in the world is going on here? If it's just gross incompetence, why does has it only happened in states where Ron Paul seems to be having strong showing?
The biggest reason I have an easy time accepting the concept of nearly criminal media misreporting and bias is because I've sat back and watched them do it to certain religions for many decades. Comparative religion being one of my favorite diversions, I know the straight story on most, so I sat there watching the MSM lie and exaggerate and sensationalize and mischaracterize for ages now. I've gotten quite familiar with the tactics they like to use, even if I can't for the life of me sort out why they are so massively biased.
Granted, New Hampshire was a state where Ron Paul did very well and there was no controversy. That's good to see. Florida and South Carolina didn't suddenly have "technical difficulties" midway through counting the vote. So why did it happen in Iowa and Nevada??
When there was no conspiracy and the Democrats were actively trying to steal the election in Florida in 2000, the outcry of conspiracy and the media coverage was all front and center. So why isn't this getting the same kind of coverage? The tone from the media is, "Oh well. Ho Hum. We'll just wait for them to figure it out."
It's sad when a lot of people's attitudes are not to care about something unless it affects them personally.
This isn't me starting a "conspiracy", but I find it odd how Ron Paul came in second in Nevada in 2008, also behind Romney, but this year Gingrich beats him? If Nevada citizens preferred Paul over someone like McCain in 2008, why would they prefer Gingrich now? Different voters maybe, but it really isn't acceptable to have all the voting mishaps.
How they dress?What are you talking about?I wasn't aware that anyones supporters 'dressed' any different then anyone elses in the race?I was talking about how they act and I assume you are smart enough to know that since you have never struck me as stupid but merely delusional....
You're Ron Pauls #1 fan and if he is as great as you say and if his and your recruiting methods were effective you should have had no problem getting enough supporters to the polls in Nevada to defeat Romney considering the pathetic turnout that they always have but you weren't even able to beat Gingrich.
Don't get mad at me that your group hasn't convinced a majority of republicans that your guy is right for the job....if he gets the nomination i'll vote for him.Since you are so passionate about him its your job to help him get the numbers to prevail.If you fail then the 'Romney/Obama second term' as you frame it will be your fault not mine.
I was being sarcastic in pointing out that instead of looking at the candidates' positions on issues, you are looking at factors the candidate have no control over and which does not affect how the candidate governs the country. If a Paul supporter dresses in drag, stands on the street corner every day and shows his rear end to the passersby while singing 'Ron Paul 2012 or Fark You' how does that disqualify the candidate himself? Paul's supporters are more vocal and passionate, so they also tend to be more vociferous (depending on one's view, one can interpret this as passion or pushiness). The media also does a fine job of highlighting the 1 nutjob in a crowd of 999 normal people as the quintessential Paul supporter.
Regarding the turnout, in every caucus and primary so far, regardless of whatever place Paul finished in the end, his turnout has been 2 to 5 times that of 2008.
IA
2008
Romney - 29,949
Paul - 11,817
2012
Romney - 29,805
Paul - 26,036
Romney - a decrease of 0.48%
Paul - an increase of 120.33%
NH
2008
Romney - 75,546
Paul - 18,308
2012
Romney - 97,532
Paul - 56,848
Romney - an increase of 29.10%
Paul - an increase of 210.51%
SC
2008
Romney - 64,970
Paul - 15,773
2012
Romney - 167,279
Paul - 77,993
Romney - an increase of 157.47%
Paul - an increase of 394.47%
FL
2008
Romney - 604,932
Paul - 62,887
2012
Romney - 771,842
Paul - 116,776
Romney - an increase of 27.59%
Paul - an increase of 85.69%
NV
2008
Romney - 22,646
Paul - 6,084
2012
Romney - 16,486
Paul - 6,175
Romney - a decrease of 27.20%
Paul - an increase of 1.50%
So when everywhere, even in FL where Paul did not campaign and had ZERO staff, he got major improvements from 2008, but suddenly in NV, one of his strongest states where he even came 2nd in 2008 when he was much lesser known, after campaigning there for 4 years, he got only 91 more votes than 2008? REALLY?
Now look at what Paul's campaign manager Carl Bunce said:
"We have more IDs than Romney had votes in '08," said Paul's state chairman, Carl Bunce, meaning identified supporters who have committed to attend Saturday's caucuses across the state. He wouldn't give a precise number, but Romney's 2008 vote total in his big Nevada win was 22,649."
Also from the same article: "The town clerk, she said, has reported being stunned by the number of former Democrats and independents the Paulites have gotten to register as Republicans in order to caucus for Paul. The volunteers have netted 800 new registrations, according to Bunce."
But inexplicably on the election day, Paul supporters who usually go above and beyond to see Paul win, suddenly decide to all stay at home? Only 25% of those ID'd shows up to vote? The one precinct which CNN broadcasts live, Paul wins in a landslide, but everywhere else in Clark County he suddenly loses?
You seriously think we are all tin-foil hatters or maybe, just maybe, there is a teeny weeny chance that NV GOP did not want Paul to win and shafted him?
I was being sarcastic in pointing out that instead of looking at the candidates' positions on issues, you are looking at factors the candidate have no control over and which does not affect how the candidate governs the country. If a Paul supporter dresses in drag, stands on the street corner every day and shows his rear end to the passersby while singing 'Ron Paul 2012 or Fark You' how does that disqualify the candidate himself? Paul's supporters are more vocal and passionate, so they also tend to be more vociferous (depending on one's view, one can interpret this as passion or pushiness). The media also does a fine job of highlighting the 1 nutjob in a crowd of 999 normal people as the quintessential Paul supporter.
Regarding the turnout, in every caucus and primary so far, regardless of whatever place Paul finished in the end, his turnout has been 2 to 5 times that of 2008.
IA
2008
Romney - 29,949
Paul - 11,817
2012
Romney - 29,805
Paul - 26,036
Romney - a decrease of 0.48%
Paul - an increase of 120.33%
NH
2008
Romney - 75,546
Paul - 18,308
2012
Romney - 97,532
Paul - 56,848
Romney - an increase of 29.10%
Paul - an increase of 210.51%
SC
2008
Romney - 64,970
Paul - 15,773
2012
Romney - 167,279
Paul - 77,993
Romney - an increase of 157.47%
Paul - an increase of 394.47%
FL
2008
Romney - 604,932
Paul - 62,887
2012
Romney - 771,842
Paul - 116,776
Romney - an increase of 27.59%
Paul - an increase of 85.69%
NV
2008
Romney - 22,646
Paul - 6,084
2012
Romney - 16,486
Paul - 6,175
Romney - a decrease of 27.20%
Paul - an increase of 1.50%
So when everywhere, even in FL where Paul did not campaign and had ZERO staff, he got major improvements from 2008, but suddenly in NV, one of his strongest states where he even came 2nd in 2008 when he was much lesser known, after campaigning there for 4 years, he got only 91 more votes than 2008? REALLY?
Now look at what Paul's campaign manager Carl Bunce said:
"We have more IDs than Romney had votes in '08," said Paul's state chairman, Carl Bunce, meaning identified supporters who have committed to attend Saturday's caucuses across the state. He wouldn't give a precise number, but Romney's 2008 vote total in his big Nevada win was 22,649."
Also from the same article: "The town clerk, she said, has reported being stunned by the number of former Democrats and independents the Paulites have gotten to register as Republicans in order to caucus for Paul. The volunteers have netted 800 new registrations, according to Bunce."
But inexplicably on the election day, Paul supporters who usually go above and beyond to see Paul win, suddenly decide to all stay at home? Only 25% of those ID'd shows up to vote? The one precinct which CNN broadcasts live, Paul wins in a landslide, but everywhere else in Clark County he suddenly loses?
You seriously think we are all tin-foil hatters or maybe, just maybe, there is a teeny weeny chance that NV GOP did not want Paul to win and shafted him?
Excellent post. I really hope Paul has people looking into this.
So sad that some people are willing to spend their time criticizing a candidate and his supporters instead of questioning the honesty of our election, especially when fradulent practices have been exposed countless times in the past as well as this current election.
Who cares who you support? When we do not have an honest voting system in place, we all lose.
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I wasn't aware that anyones supporters 'dressed' any different then anyone elses in the race?I was talking about how they act and I assume you are smart enough to know that since you have never struck me as stupid but merely delusional.... 
