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Old 02-09-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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... The GOP has switched the argument back to the "three G's"- God, guns, 'n gays!!!
Oh please, the campaign WILL be all about obama's FAILED record.

Why do you think his re-election strategy is to AVOID talking about it?
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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New unemployment claims dropped AGAIN this week to the lowest in four years. It is getting harder and harder to make the claim that the economy is not improving. Reps, though, are famous for denial of the obvious even with the facts staring them in the face. Witness climate change and evolution. I doubt their song will change much, but I agree with the posters that are seeing a change back to the old themes of God, guns etc.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:19 AM
 
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New unemployment claims dropped AGAIN this week to the lowest in four years. It is getting harder and harder to make the claim that the economy is not improving. Reps, though, are famous for denial of the obvious even with the facts staring them in the face. Witness climate change and evolution. I doubt their song will change much, but I agree with the posters that are seeing a change back to the old themes of God, guns etc.
I disagree and say the "recovery" is artificial smoke and mirrors stimulus to give the appearance of recovery until the election. Congrats on your second star BTW>
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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IBut the comments about the GOP's lack of vision are on target. All we hear is how they'll undo everything Obama has done.
What lack of vision was being discussed?
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:12 AM
 
Location: #
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Oh please, the campaign WILL be all about obama's FAILED record.

Why do you think his re-election strategy is to AVOID talking about it?
Actually, the campaign already has become about the ineptness of the Republican candidates. Don't believe me? Read the polls. Read the stories that show Romney is becoming less liked as time goes on. Look how Santorum, a person who has no business being in the picture is winning somehow.

If you are given a weak opponent, you go after the opponent directly.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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You asked. Here you go. With numbers:

RON PAUL "PLAN TO RESTORE AMERICA"*|*Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee (http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/ - broken link)

Do you have an Obama plan for 2012 or should I refer to the one from 2008 since he hasn't gotten to it yet?
You mean other the one underway at the present time? I think his 2012 plan will be to do as much as he can until the GOP decides to pitch in and help. Until then, we will have to take small steps getting out of the mess, well, unless we can remove the obstruction this Nov.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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yep, that is our daughter as well: 32 years with the same company, starting as an intern in college, downsized a year after making VP and hasn't worked since Dec except a few consulting jobs. She is close, but no cigar yet.
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Tell that to my peaceful, hardworking, highly skilled, highly educated, and unemployed family.
What do "conservatives" call people who can't find job in months, much less years?
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I've seen a couple of stupid threads where posters were slagging on Obama, too.

Fact is, this election WILL be about Obama's performance. Or more accurately, the public's perception of his performance. And it's still 9 months off. But the comments about the GOP's lack of vision are on target. All we hear is how they'll undo everything Obama has done.

In other words, "things were better in the Bush years and let's do it all over again." Heck, they even have another mideast war in their back pocket, primed and ready to launch. Thing is, they never mention Bush by name, for some silly reason. Or his dad, either. Lots of Reagan references. But no forward vision. Only looking backwards.

"Tax cuts and trickle-down"

Let's see how that sells.
in all fairness, Obama will have that mideast war too. Don't think he won't do it. But your other points
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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better yet...let's just let the guy have another 4 years. His economic 'PLAN' of bailouts...government guaranteed loans to GREEN companies...lack of action on illegal immigration AND blocking all State efforts to do something about it...and raising the debt ceiling every time we turn around is working just GREAT isn't it??

You left wingers have no ability to see the failings of this clown. Your partisan BLINDNESS is the undoing of this ONCE great country.

The government needs to change it's ways...not reward failure with another term!! The obama way is PROVEN to be a failure...throwing money at every problem leads to nothing. Not encouraging the creation of production jobs leads to less government revenue..and spinning the FACTS to make it look like obama's plan is working highlights your ignorance.
when is the last year the debt ceiling wasn't raised? ignorance? who is being ignorant. this post is comical. You can disagree with Obama's politics all you want, I'm fine with that. But to call others partisan and blind while saying what you said above is just laughable.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I disagree and say the "recovery" is artificial smoke and mirrors stimulus to give the appearance of recovery until the election. Congrats on your second star BTW>
if new filings for unemployment are down, does that not indicate fewer layoffs?
if private sector hiring is increasing (not quite long enough for calling it a "trend", but getting close), is that not more hiring?
Consumer debt increased in December - which, sadly, is a sign of increased consumer spending.
Incomes have risen slightly, which is another positive sign.

What exactly about those items are artificial recovery? All of this happening while state and local governments continue to cut spending and layoff employees, yet the country is still achieving modest positive growth...no one is saying to be ecstatic about it, but the trend is beginning to reveal itself.
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