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Old 03-19-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Houston
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If Reagan had succeeded in '68 before the rise of the Christian right I think things would have been a lot different. Now we have one party that favors social tyranny, one party that favors economic tyranny, and no one, who can win, that favors no tyranny.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Is there something in that mess of a post that a majority of mainline Democratic or Republican voters would object to?
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I hear you. It will do everyone good to read some of Goldwater's quotes. He was a prescient man.
Thank you for the quotes.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:29 PM
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They have had to fight the Democrats giving away the US Treasury to government union employees and for social services in exchange for large donations to the Democrat party and the vote.
Kind of like how the senior vote was bought with unfunded prescription drug coverage?

There hasn't been a Republican president as long as I've been alive who hasn't been grossly irresponsible and exploded our debt. The GOP is the party of enormous deficits, enormous unfunded expenditures, economic instability, and huge giveaways to buy votes. But hey, as long as they demonize blacks and gays and hispanics, it's all good, right? Who cares about blowing a 7 trillion dollar hole in Medicare? Who cares about blowing 2 trillion on a war started based on false information (remember folks, you have to pay interest when you finance a trillion dollar war with borrowed money, and those soldiers coming home need medical care)?
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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Kind of like how the senior vote was bought with unfunded prescription drug coverage?

There hasn't been a Republican president as long as I've been alive who hasn't been grossly irresponsible and exploded our debt. The GOP is the party of enormous deficits, enormous unfunded expenditures, economic instability, and huge giveaways to buy votes. But hey, as long as they demonize blacks and gays and hispanics, it's all good, right? Who cares about blowing a 7 trillion dollar hole in Medicare? Who cares about blowing 2 trillion on a war started based on false information (remember folks, you have to pay interest when you finance a trillion dollar war with borrowed money, and those soldiers coming home need medical care)?

Well said. It's the reason they cannot be trusted with executive power. Democrats are not perfect but they're by far the lesser of two evils.

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Old 03-19-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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If Reagan had succeeded in '68 before the rise of the Christian right I think things would have been a lot different. Now we have one party that favors social tyranny, one party that favors economic tyranny, and no one, who can win, that favors no tyranny.
huh? What are you talking about? The rise of the so called Christain right has always been there, we just were not into technology and 24/7 news in 68 and Reagan? he was almost a brand new governor at that time, still thought by many as a washed up movie star.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Yeah, complain about "who has controlled", as if the OP is talking about laws. He is talking about... ideologies, and you sure can thank a relatively different era that took shape with arrival of Reagan. Social control has always played a major role in right wing platform (and as I've mentioned repeatedly, in EVERY country). And so it has in the USA. Goldwater's era, however, ended when Reagan's began, which is the contemporary republican party.
you are partly right, but not totally. I know a little more about the Reagan era than probalby anyon on this forum, but I will let it go without any further explanation He was a combination of the old and the new.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Houston
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huh? What are you talking about? The rise of the so called Christain right has always been there, we just were not into technology and 24/7 news in 68 and Reagan? he was almost a brand new governor at that time, still thought by many as a washed up movie star.
Ronald Reagan ran for President in the Republican primaries in 1968. He was not a brand new governor at the time and the Christian right was not much of an influence on Presidential politics until the late 70's. You are 0 for 3.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Once the party of limited government, rational adults who didn't believe in crying and screaming like the left, and strong defense, i.e. "peace through strength" not necessarily endless wars. Now jihads into people's bedroom, Glenn Beck et al. evangelistic preaching and crying, and general stupidity... RIP Goldwater
I can't blame you for your feelings. I feel similar. This party today would destroy an Eisenhower for being to 'moderate.'
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Houston
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We don't need a moderate, we need an extremist in defense of liberty.
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