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Old 06-11-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Thank God we only have 148 days left until the dope int he Oval Office is officially consigned to the dustbin of history.

The Oblama experiment has failed.
Would you like to explain what this experiment was about?
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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If there were a moment in time where Oboy sealed the deal on being the dumbest and most useless waste of space ever to reside in the white house, this 'private sector' comment is that moment.

And lookie! Even though President Stupid walked back his moronic remark, we still have folks here defending what he said.



Gotta love it!
What is dumb is that you don't get it. While the President's statement could have been worded better, it was essentially correct, private sector jobs are on the rise and the drag on employment is the public sector -- something Romney's response was completely way off, claiming it is private sector jobs that are the problem. Instead of Obama being out of touch, it's Romney that's out of touch with the facts.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:35 AM
 
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What is dumb is that you don't get it. While the President's statement could have been worded better, it was essentially correct, private sector jobs are on the rise and the drag on employment is the public sector -- something Romney's response was completely way off, claiming it is private sector jobs that are the problem. Instead of Obama being out of touch, it's Romney that's out of touch with the facts.
You probably should not waste time with anyone who can't bring themselves to just say/use Obama's name correctly. You can always tell the partisan hacks from reasonable people that way.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Good point, jbc.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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In Context: 'The private sector is doing fine'

"Keep in mind that the private sector has been hiring at a solid pace over the last 27 months. But one of the biggest weaknesses has been state and local governments, which have laid off 450,000 Americans. These are teachers and cops and firefighters. Congress should pass a bill putting them back to work right now, giving help to the states so that those layoffs are not occurring..."
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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What is dumb is that you don't get it. While the President's statement could have been worded better, it was essentially correct, private sector jobs are on the rise and the drag on employment is the public sector -- something Romney's response was completely way off, claiming it is private sector jobs that are the problem. Instead of Obama being out of touch, it's Romney that's out of touch with the facts.


I think you have to know what 'private sector' jobs are before you can address or talk abou the issue. I heard Axelrod saying we needed to put teachers, firefighters and policemen back to work to improve the private sector. Really??? Last I check, that is the public sector. They don't have a clue, that is the problem.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:40 PM
 
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Let's see if the msm will excoriate him for saying that, just as the did to McCain in 2008.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I think you have to know what 'private sector' jobs are before you can address or talk abou the issue. I heard Axelrod saying we needed to put teachers, firefighters and policemen back to work to improve the private sector. Really??? Last I check, that is the public sector. They don't have a clue, that is the problem.
You heard. Where?
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: it depends
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In Context: 'The private sector is doing fine'

"Keep in mind that the private sector has been hiring at a solid pace over the last 27 months. But one of the biggest weaknesses has been state and local governments, which have laid off 450,000 Americans. These are teachers and cops and firefighters. Congress should pass a bill putting them back to work right now, giving help to the states so that those layoffs are not occurring..."
In the local school, we have the number of teachers that we want. It was decided by the adminstration which is supervised by an elected board of citizens. Taxes are levied upon local property to meet the budget. We also have the police force we desire, which is decided and funded in a similar fashion.

If your town needs more teachers or more police officers, go hire them--and pay for them.

The raw fact, and why everybody keeps talking past each other on this thread, is that borrowing money from China or our grandchildren to help local givernments spend more than they can afford, is nonsense. And it is even worse in the short run if the funds are subtracted from the productive sector of the economy instead of borrowed.

Some of those laid-off government workers have been made redundant by increasing productivity. Some of them were the fourth guy in the crew that leans on their shovels most of the day. Local governments are having to do more with less--just like individuals and families and businesses.

As for the hit to the overall economy, we never improve our position by wasting money (sorry, Paul Krugman.) It is a net positive when we stop wasting money. Those paychecks come from somewhere--they are subtracted from somewhere else before they are paid out. Would we be better off with a trillion dollars more public payroll? Sure, if you pretend the trillion dollars grew on trees. Not, if you realize that they had to come from somewhere.

Obama has clearly shown that he believes the path to economic vibrancy goes through an ever larger government commanding an ever-larger share of resources. This is the biggest problem with his supposed "gaffe."
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Obama has clearly shown that he believes the path to economic vibrancy goes through an ever larger government commanding an ever-larger share of resources. This is the biggest problem with his supposed "gaffe."
That is your understanding/comprehension of the subject. Obama's message is clear, albeit worded poorly. It helps little when private sector is hiring while public sector is laying off people. In fact, it causes a drag in the economy where we end up having 3.7 million more employed and contributing to the economy instead of 4.7 million, over last 28 months.
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