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Old 09-27-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Here is an opportunity to read some thoughts from an Aussie who claims to have been an Obama supporter up to now. I don't know how he feels about The One now but it seems he disagrees with the Obama campaign a lot. He talks about a real Romney's words about bludges holding a lot of truth.

***Now I’ve always been an Obama fan (except his economic track record) and had little to go on whether I like Mitt Romney or not.

But these comments instil a much higher level of respect for Mr Romney and his bold honesty even if they were politically incorrect.

The critics (largely leftist journalists) in the US and Australia harshly target him for speaking the truth. Nevertheless, isn’t it true that people should be responsible and care for their lives?***

If you don't know what a bludge is do as I did and go to our friend, Google.

Is there some hard truth in Romney’s comments? | 21st Century News
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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The 47% comments will go down in political campaign history as the dumbest thing ever done by a candidate. It was AWFUL.

He's going down for the second time and right now he needs a gigantic life preserver if he's going to save his campaign. Glub, glub, glub.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: The land of infinite variety!
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IMO, while his statement about the 47% may have been true, many of those people are elderly who rely on SS and Medicare and traditionally vote Republican. He alienated a lot of people that might have otherwise voted for him with this comment.

There are many Democrats that are hard working and pay taxes that do not see themselves as victims. If any of them thought about voting for Romney as swing voters, he took care of that problem as well.

So, yes, I do think it was damaging to his campaign. It is not something you would recommend someone say when running for office.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Yes. Yes it was that bad.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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IMO, while his statement about the 47% may have been true, many of those people are elderly who rely on SS and Medicare
Only 10% are.

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There are many Democrats that are hard working and pay taxes that do not see themselves as victims. If any of them thought about voting for Romney as swing voters, he took care of that problem as well.
That won't be many. Democrat voters are mostly low-income.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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The problem is: I think I *know* what Romney meant. He just said it so poorly. He's correct that there are a certain segment of voters that will NEVER vote for Romney. He won't change their mind and he's not even going to try to reach those people. However, his stupidity lies on the 47% remark. The 47% that he was referring to, the ones with no tax liability for various reasons, are NOT the ones who may not vote for them. He basically called those 47% losers and slackers. Well, some of them are, but many of them are not.

There are some real losers who WILL be voting for Romney and who ARE a part of the 47% he was referring to. Just watch one of the Alexandra Pelosi videos on "Republican Voters" and you will see what I mean. (She also does the same service to Democratic voters so don't feel like you would be disloyal watching this).

Romney just came off as sounding very snobbish and uncaring and he had his facts wrong. Mostly though, a presidential candidate shouldn't be speaking of his potential "people" in that manner. I just don't see how YOU cannot see this.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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Independant here. I heard it and it was much ado about nothing. As long as the statistics were correct.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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Independant here. I heard it and it was much ado about nothing. As long as the statistics were correct.
It's actually 51% who pay no federal income tax:
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"In summary, for tax year 2009, approximately 22 percent of all tax units, including filers and non filers, will have zero income tax liability, approximately 30% will receive a refundable credit, and approximately 49% will have a positive income tax liability."
http://finance.senate.gov/newsroom/r...1-ffc00b5c00ef

Only 49% PAY federal income tax. 51% pay NO federal income tax whatsoever.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Yeah, those comments were pretty stupid.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The 47% comments will go down in political campaign history as the dumbest thing ever done by a candidate. It was AWFUL.

He's going down for the second time and right now he needs a gigantic life preserver if he's going to save his campaign. Glub, glub, glub.
I guess you don't want to discuss anything said in the link. Would there be a reason for that?
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