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Old 10-01-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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Of course there are people who don't want to admit they are voting for Romney. I mean, Obama has failed and no one is happy that the country is not improving. So many people take Obama's failure personally. Most people don't like to go around rubbing in the fact that Obama is a bad president.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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I am not sure if this is true with the younger generation. Most of the younger people I know in Fort Smith who aren't heavily involved in church are voting for Obama. I also saw several cars with Obama stickers on Rogers Ave last time I was in Fort Smith. There are a lot less stickers than there were in 2008 for both parties though.
There are not that many in Fort Smith not heavily involved in Church. You know that. It is the Obama supporters who have to keep quiet.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:44 PM
 
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That would be funny if it wasn't so sad. You are brainwashed by the liberal media. Obama is either a failure as president, or he planned to hurt America and succeeded. He has never managed anything well other than to promote himself.



Many in the conservative media have expressed their less than flattering views of Romney.

When folks like David Brooks are deserting Mitt, it's all over.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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There are not that many in Fort Smith not heavily involved in Church. You know that. It is the Obama supporters who have to keep quiet.
Probably so considering Ft. Smith's population in general leans 50+ like the majority of Arkansas outside NW Ark and Little Rock. I would be interested to see a poll of only 18-30 year olds even in a conservative area like Ft Smith to see which way they lean. I think in 2008, Obama barely won the youth vote in Arkansas. The only states where McCain won with people 18-29 was Oklahoma, Louisiana, and a few states in the Mountain West.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:53 PM
 
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Also, I don't know your situation, but since you have the luxury of being on a computer right now, then you are much, much wealthier than most people in the world. Think of the view you just posted, and then realize that Obama's view is yours ...... globally. That means that globally, YOU ARE AN ELITEST! If you haven't seen 2016, you should. If Obama has his way, he will soon demonize all Americans the way he has demonized rich people (excluding himself of course). Then he will justify "spreading the wealth around" (including yours) to other countries to make everyone the same. I think this is what he means when he says he wants "a strong middle class."

You are right! damn Elitist wanting everyone to be treated equally and be able to read instead of getting all of their news from faux and help look after the less fortunate! You right it's Obama attacking those poor rich people which by the way have not been on the streets protesting enough because they are so traumatize. It is a good thing that they have people like you to represent them. And those darn democrats having a convention with all of those different people there instead of being like the RNC and have mostly white extremist christians supporting this country! Go mitt! we will undercome!
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:57 PM
 
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Are you serious? I am not out to prove anything. I have not done a survey or statistical analysis. My opinion is that "I think some black Christians will vote for Romney and not want to admit it." That's all you're going to get. And besides, if they don't admit it, how can that be calculated anyway, through ESP?
Question, why would someone be afraid of supporting mitt in the black community? will the democratic voting police get them? You really should geet out and actually talk to some young blacks instead of assuming everything that you hear from hannity is true
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:24 AM
 
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Question, why would someone be afraid of supporting mitt in the black community? will the democratic voting police get them? You really should geet out and actually talk to some young blacks instead of assuming everything that you hear from hannity is true
You really should get your head of the sand.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:35 AM
 
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You are right! damn Elitist wanting everyone to be treated equally and be able to read instead of getting all of their news from faux and help look after the less fortunate! You right it's Obama attacking those poor rich people which by the way have not been on the streets protesting enough because they are so traumatize. It is a good thing that they have people like you to represent them. And those darn democrats having a convention with all of those different people there instead of being like the RNC and have mostly white extremist christians supporting this country! Go mitt! we will undercome!
That was quite the post. I'm not sure if I understand your point, but I'll give it a shot. Being treated fairly means people earn a day's wages for a day's work, whatever their profession might be. It doesn't mean a day's wages for sitting on your butt. It doesn't mean a hairdresser earns the same as a doctor. Unfortunately, the victimology taught by Obama is the opposite of being treated equally. Someone getting something they don't earn or deserve is not fair.

As for the convention, the demographics of the RNC were more representative of America and the DNC's were skewed. Look it up. America's races are not equally divided whether you want to pretend they are or not.

As for liberals wanting to help the poor, feast your eyes on this:

Written by a Liberal:

Liberal Tightwads
Nicholas D. Kristof
12/23/08

This holiday season is a time to examine who's been naughty and who's been nice, but I'm unhappy with my findings. The problem is this: We liberals are personally stingy.

Liberals show tremendous compassion in pushing for generous government spending to help the neediest people at home and abroad. Yet when it comes to individual contributions to charitable causes, liberals are cheapskates.

Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, "Who Really Cares," cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.

Other research has reached similar conclusions. The "generosity index" from the Catalogue for Philanthropy typically finds that red states are the most likely to give to nonprofits, while Northeastern states are least likely to do so.

The upshot is that Democrats, who speak passionately about the hungry and homeless, personally fork over less money to charity than Republicans -- the ones who try to cut health insurance for children.

"When I started doing research on charity," Mr. Brooks wrote, "I expected to find that political liberals -- who, I believed, genuinely cared more about others than conservatives did -- would turn out to be the most privately charitable people. So when my early findings led me to the opposite conclusion, I assumed I had made some sort of technical error. I re-ran analyses. I got new data. Nothing worked. In the end, I had no option but to change my views."

Something similar is true internationally. European countries seem to show more compassion than the United States in providing safety nets for the poor, and they give far more humanitarian foreign aid per capita than the United States does. But as individuals, Europeans are far less charitable than Americans.
Americans give sums to charity equivalent to 1.67% of GNP, according to a terrific new book, "Philanthrocapitalism," by Matthew Bishop and Michael Green. The British are second, with 0.73%, while the stingiest people on the list are the French, at 0.14%.

(Looking away from politics, there's evidence that one of the most generous groups in the United States is gays. Researchers believe that is because they are less likely to have rapacious heirs pushing to keep wealth in the family.)

When liberals see the data on giving, they tend to protest that conservatives look good only because they shower dollars on churches -- that a fair amount of that money isn't helping the poor, but simply constructing lavish spires.

It's true that religion is the essential reason conservatives give more, and religious liberals are as generous as religious conservatives. Among the stingiest of the stingy are secular conservatives. According to Google's figures, if donations to all religious organizations are excluded, liberals give slightly more to charity than conservatives do. But Mr. Brooks says that if measuring by the percentage of income given, conservatives are more generous than liberals even to secular causes. In any case, if conservative donations often end up building extravagant churches, liberal donations frequently sustain art museums, symphonies, schools and universities that cater to the well-off. (It's great to support the arts and education, but they're not the same as charity for the needy. And some research suggests that donations to education actually increase inequality because they go mostly to elite institutions attended by the wealthy.)

Conservatives also appear to be more generous than liberals in nonfinancial ways. People in red states are considerably more likely to volunteer for good causes, and conservatives give blood more often. If liberals and moderates gave blood as often as conservatives, Mr. Brooks said, the U.S. blood supply would increase by 45%.

So, you've guessed it! This column is a transparent attempt this holiday season to shame liberals into being more charitable. Since I often scold Republicans for being callous in their policies toward the needy, it seems only fair to reproach Democrats for being cheap in their private donations. What I want for Christmas is a healthy competition between left and right to see who actually does more for the neediest.
Of course, given the economic pinch these days, charity isn't on the top of anyone's agenda. Yet the financial ability to contribute to charity, and the willingness to do so, are strikingly unrelated. Amazingly, the working poor, who have the least resources, somehow manage to be more generous as a percentage of income than the middle class.

So, even in tough times, there are ways to help. Come on liberals, redeem yourselves. Put your wallets where your hearts are.

Nicholas D. Kristof: Liberal tightwads - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Printer friendly

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Old 10-02-2012, 12:35 AM
 
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You really should get your head of the sand.

I'm going to think that you meant "out of the sand" but I figured that using a computer to communicate is still relatively new to you so I will let that go. Just curious when was the last time that you actually talked to a black person, and I don't mean from the safety of your horse and buggy. That being said I doubt very seriously that you dared venture out into a black neighborhood and asked anyone how they felt about voting for mitt.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:41 AM
 
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I'm going to think that you meant "out of the sand" but I figured that using a computer to communicate is still relatively new to you so I will let that go. Just curious when was the last time that you actually talked to a black person, and I don't mean from the safety of your horse and buggy. That being said I doubt very seriously that you dared venture out into a black neighborhood and asked anyone how they felt about voting for mitt.
The rage, divisiveness, and hatred that Obama has spread to the American people has now spewed like projectile vomit, even over something as small as a typo. I do not talk about politics in person that much because my state is a solid red, thank God! But I know that a black person voting for Romney will most likely not be outspoken. That's a fact. Deal with it.
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