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Old 10-26-2012, 11:37 AM
 
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And the people that lost their jobs at the companies benefit to boost their profit margins, also vote..

Thats why there are MILLIONS more on welfare and living in poverty, while you celebrate and high 5 it as a success
Who do you think those people on unemployment and living in poverty the 47% are going to vote for? The person that stated he does not care about them?
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Funny, judging from all the conservative posts here, you'd swear they refuse to hear about any good news, and they just wanna see the economy fail!!
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:44 AM
 
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Funny, judging from all the conservative posts here, you'd swear they refuse to hear about any good news, and they just wanna see the economy fail!!
See, nobody that is being honest wants the economy to fail, but many conservative leaning people like myself just see the truth behind this number which is that its being driven by government/military spending which indicates that this is not about the actual private sector experiencing a recovery.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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Who do you think those people on unemployment and living in poverty the 47% are going to vote for? The person that stated he does not care about them?
I'm willing to bet you think they are going to vote for Obama, but stand here with fake outrage over Romneys comment that you just confirmed is 100% accurate

Personally, I'd be voting for the one offering me a job, whereas you believe they will vote for welfare.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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Funny, judging from all the conservative posts here, you'd swear they refuse to hear about any good news, and they just wanna see the economy fail!!
pointing out that Obama said we'd have over 4% GDP growth by now, and that you need 3% in order to substain job growth, doesnt mean we want it to fail..

If you cant take facts, then maybe reading forums arent really the best place for you to be reading.

I might suggest the fiction section of your local library
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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I'm willing to bet you think they are going to vote for Obama, but stand here with fake outrage over Romneys comment that you just confirmed is 100% accurate

Personally, I'd be voting for the one offering me a job, whereas you believe they will vote for welfare.

You will see a lot more federal jobs employment under Obama than Romney, but personally I don't rely on the govt. to offer me a job...maybe you do.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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See, nobody that is being honest wants the economy to fail, but many conservative leaning people like myself just see the truth behind this number which is that its being driven by government/military spending which indicates that this is not about the actual private sector experiencing a recovery.
Consumer spending can't stimulate growth because consumers are in debt. And the government can't simply waive away your Mastercard bills. "Spending" more or less kept the economy afloat instead of feeding on itself.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Consumer spending can't stimulate growth because consumers are in debt. And the government can't simply waive away your Mastercard bills. "Spending" more or less kept the economy afloat instead of feeding on itself.
Taking money from tax payers to spend money on things we don't actually need, is not a long term solution, hence the concept that this is just an artificial propping up of the economy. Not going deeper into debt and letting tax payers keep more of their money to address their own debt situations is the correct long term answer...we are just extending the pain. It comes down to how you view things...do you rip the band aid off fast or slow? I vote for fast.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Taking money from tax payers to spend money on things we don't actually need, is not a long term solution, hence the concept that this is just an artificial propping up of the economy. Not going deeper into debt and letting tax payers keep more of their money to address their own debt situations is the correct long term answer...we are just extending the pain. It comes down to how you view things...do you rip the band aid off fast or slow? I vote for fast.
Well, we could just follow your policy proposal to its natural, logical end.

So no TARP funds.

No stimulus.

No AIG bailout.

No auto bailout.

What do you think our economy would look like?
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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Well, we could just follow your policy proposal to its natural, logical end.

So no TARP funds.

No stimulus.

No AIG bailout.

No auto bailout.

What do you think our economy would look like?
Probably better than it is today...especially around the second auto bail out this country has done. I firmly believe that the artificial propping up of this mismanaged, bloated industry has kept us from true innovation that could have happened if they were allowed to fail, and people with better ideas and plans were allowed to take advantage of that failure. Same goes for TARP and AIG...let them fail, let the smaller, smarter, better leveraged businesses pick up the slack. All of this propping up of the system eliminates competition and innovation, which is what we lack today, and why we have such employment problems.

Nobody bailed out the Internet industry during the internet bubble in the early 2000s and today that is one of our few industries with innovation, profits, plentiful jobs and a bright future.
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