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Shocking, you agree with him on what you want to happen
On what we want to happen? No, I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by Frozenyo
Anyway, no need to jump the gun, the republicans are still in full implode mode. Hopefully the last two Presidential losers will keep spewing their bitter vile hate and continue to smear the entire party.
How are the last two presidential losers spewing "bitter vile hate"?
And you all said the Republicans were in full implode mode after 2008... Then look what happened in 2010. Then you say we are in full implode mode after 2012 when we lost by far less than we did in 2008.
To abolish it is to abolish the census. Believe it or not. The census was primarily used for redistricting.
No, the Census can be used to redistrict without gerrymandering. You can just set up an independent redistricting commission (theoretically).
Look, I don't think gerrymandering is a good thing but those "independent" commissions may not always be able to come up with solutions that are 100% fair anyway. As long as both red states and blue states are gerrymandering, they cancel each other out to some degree. When they can't completely cancel each other out, it's because one party had a disproportionate of power because the other f***ed up.
All due to the 2010 mid-terms, which then took advantage of the 2010 Census to gerrymander control to the GOP until 2022.
This is untrue, redistricting did not take place before the 2010 elections. The census may have been in 2010, but the final tally was not presented to state governments until later. 2012 was the first election where redistricting was a factor. The 2010 midterms used the exact same format as 2008.
Nate Silver isn't always accurate long before elections. Hell, even in September of 2010, he said the Republicans had a ~25% chance of gaining 60 seats in the House.
And you all said the Republicans were in full implode mode after 2008... Then look what happened in 2010. Then you say we are in full implode mode after 2012 when we lost by far less than we did in 2008.
Well the Republicans did kind of implode after 2008, they succumbed to the Tea Party losing a number of primaries to them and then having them win a surprising number of seats in 2010 for a number of reasons, which the Democrats didn't see the Tea Party as a threat which was a poor choice on their part. In 2012 we saw a number of those Tea Party members turn into one term Congressmen, though some survived thanks to redistricting.
Now after 2012, we Liberals would love to see the Republicans implode, but it really is up the Republicans what happens with their party, do they embarrass the far right even more than before or do they cut them off and try to move back to the more moderate side trying to court voters through more reasonable moves and trying to do more compromising this next two years to show America that they can work with the majority to get this country moving again. It is their choice what happens next.
Did you click the link and read the part about 60 seats? The GOP did not need 60 seats to take the House....
You are combining quotes in that link, the article said they had a 2 in 3 chance of taking the House in 2010, it said they had a 25% chance of taking 60 seats, which they came very close to. Those are two separate things they are talking about in that article.
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