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Old 11-07-2007, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Voting for or endorsing the former Mayor is like re-electing President Bush, except the former Mayor is smarter, and therefore, more dangerous! Check his record, not his rhetoric.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Voting for or endorsing the former Mayor is like re-electing President Bush, except the former Mayor is smarter, and therefore, more dangerous! Check his record, not his rhetoric.
I agree. We need a cuckolded wife with a penchant for grand government schemes.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Are you vaguely capable of (a) not changing the subject or (b) not making a joke of everything?


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I agree. We need a cuckolded wife with a penchant for grand government schemes.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:17 PM
 
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The republican party may split this year if a conservative candidate isn't elected on the ballot. Voting for this guy is political suicide on the republican part.

The Christian Coalition DOES NOT support Rudy Guiliani! HE WILL NOT WIN THE ELECTION!
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:27 PM
 
Location: lake travis area
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Mixing religion and politics is how all this mess got started in the first place. The neocons, conned the religious groups, among others, and used them to corrupt our elections, and now are constantly planning and implementing corruption of our system everywhere, example: The attorney general office. People, including many religious peoples haven't forgot the religious corruption, so I'm glad Pat Robertson is involved, it will crush the GOP further. God help this country.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Does anyone know how Falwell had his eye on before his maker called him home? Just curious.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:27 PM
 
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Does anyone know how Falwell had his eye on before his maker called him home? Just curious.
Falwell hadn't endorsed anyone before he passed, but he met with John McCain this past spring, which is REAL odd, since in the 2000 campaign McCain referred to Falwell specifically (and other tel-evangelists in-general) as "agents of intolerance." McCain's remarks were based on Falwell's idiotic pronouncements that "AIDS is God's revenge on Gays." So, in the early stages of the 2008 campaign, McCain goes down to Roanoke to suck up to that fat tub of hatefulness and bigotry. McCain is dead meat for doing that, a huge flip flop on his part from his long-held beliefs on Falwell.

Along those lines, Gingrich was out here in CO this past summer, sucking up to James Dobson, another Agent of Intolerance. Nothing got said on that, Dobson didn't endorse him and Newt says he's not running. Yet. For Dobson to endorse Gingrich, an adulterous, divorced character is as wild an idea as Robertson supporting Rudy. Newt was one of the architects of the insane impeachment of Clinton, then had to resign when it was found out that he cheated on his wife while she was in the hospital with cancer, what a swell "Family Values" candidate is he. FWIW, Newt fathered a new book called "A Contract With the Earth." The book is a blatant attempt to rip-off and co-opt the message of Al Gore on the environment. Newt may try to run later, we'll have to wait and see. If he does, I don't think he'll get far.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:58 PM
 
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Don;'t be fooled. This Robertson endorsement is to drive a wedge in the GOP party and ensure a Hillary victory. This stinks to high heaven. It proves my statement that Republicans are no different than Democrats. There's no one, except for Paul, who's representing the true conservative principles. What a shame.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:13 PM
 
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Great Christian he is
shady charity (Operation Blessing) receiving donations from the FEMA website meant for Katrina victims. Said charity also supported a "hush hush" diamond mine business in Zaire.

They're all filthy crooks hiding behind and using God and the Bible to enrich themselves. Greed and Arrogance, period.

Guilani, I won't even begin.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Northeast TN
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Robertson is such a flake that this will drive people AWAY from Rudy. Having support from religious psychopaths like Robertson will hurt Rudy's credibility, not help it.

The evangelical vote is changing, no more blind sheep evangelical rank & file voters, yanked along by the nose from deaf old goat televangelists and doing & voting whatever talking heads say. Millions of voters no longer buy into the "send me your money and we'll fight the good fight" scams mouthed by Dobson, Robertson, Falwell and their now-disgraced NEA sidekick Rev Ted. Throw in Senators Craig and Vetter, with Rep Foley and you have the stuff of a GOP debacle in 2008.

Then again, maybe Pat has seen the light, as he approves of a candidate who is pro-choice and pro gay rights.

Does this show the "religious right" is more about being right-wing than about being religious. One of their leaders is willing to support a candidate who goes against everything they stand for, if they think it'll help them win an election. Anyone who can think will see this is a naked power play by a no-longer influential Pat Robertson. All Rudy needs is David Duke's endorsement to make the right wing looney circle complete. Evangelical christians were used and abused by Bush, Rove, and the GOP, yet one (or more) religious 'leader' is so blinded by the smell of power (i.e., control over people) that he will grasp at whoever is the front runner, no doubt having cut some sort of backroom deal with him.

How can Robertson, who for years has shed tears for millions of abortion victims, support a candidacy of someone who is unashamedly pro abortion? Why is Robertson, a champion of marriage, standing with a divorced man who has openly supported gay unions?

This may be more about an anti-Romney / anti-Mormon nomination. Will the Christian right support a Mormon? Seems one of their so-called "leaders" is not able to overcome what appears an anti-Mormon bias. He may not say the words, but his actions prove it.

Why didn't Robertson support Governor Huckabee, a Baptist minister cut from the same cloth as Pat, who preached a fine sermon and came out on top at the recent Value Voters gathering, where Rudy showed poorly. Pro-Life and Sanctity of Marriage has a ready-made candidate in Governor Mike Huckabee, so has Pat Robinson has lost what little creditability he had left?

Rudy is a one-trick pony called 9-11. Doing a fine job on 9-11 and shortly thereafter doesn't make someone presidential timber.

Robertson's unfathomable endorsement throws all sorts of curves into GOP campaigns.
Perhaps Robertson has been brainwashed by the 9/11 footage of Giuliani as "the" hero and can't seperate reality from fantasy. This is a quote from Robertson, "I think the overriding issue that we face in this nation is the Islamic terrorism. And I think, if we don't realize that, America must be kept safe, and I think we want a leader who is strong against this threat of terror." Hopefully, his followers are bright enough to recognize a red flag when they see one.
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