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once again i ask, politely, please, put forth your best piece of "information saying there is information that has been confirm that says the contrary" .
so far cruz has released a government issued birth certificate online. that puts him on par with obama in june 2008. do you still feel there is a double-standard?
there has been a non-stop assault on obama's family history by the birthers. his mother is directly and repeatedly called a wh*re, his grandparents are accused of being frauds plus there's a never ending supply of personal attacks against the first lady.
yes.
Yes, I'll agree that door has been opened AND CLOSED but the Obama haters just can't give it up. It will be funny to give them a taste of their own medicine. I hope Cruz is their nominee!
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ
The Problem is you guys are so In Love with Obama and his brand of modified Socialism that you can even realize our rights being whisked away. The birther issue is important, but we can not make a firm clear answer we will see. The Jury is still out.
The same can be said about those who defend Obama at any cost. Crazy, wacky and any other adjective that you use to describe so call "Birthers"
Although the way the left defends this issue and the tone and language to any one who questions is suspect.
If you are right the Office of President is up held to standard. If it turns out to be the latter we as a nation allowed the standard of the President to cheapen Our fore fathers have established this country when we broke from anther King which was drunk with power!
Ted Cruz on the other hand is not afraid to address the important issue of the day. He engaged Republican and Democrat alike. The GOP will be firmly have candidates that speak to the issues. I am not speaking the Legacy Republicans. (Like McCain)
So go ahead and drop smoke about the Defense of a Failed President. Its OK he is your guy!
Obama is the worst socialist EVER. Love the use of Caps though; it really brings home your point.
the question i'd honestly like answered is why you are still rejecting the direct confirmation of the facts of obama's birth by HI department of health officials?
The current folks going full birther against Cruz (and Rubio and Jundall) are the same right-wing nutburgers going full birther on Obama. When Democrats mention it, they are engaging in mockery. Nothing more.
the question i'd honestly like answered is why you are still rejecting the direct confirmation of the facts of obama's birth by HI department of health officials?
oh for God's sake, I am not doubting it in anyway; where are you getting this? Show me one place where I have even indicated I believe the birthers? You can't!!!
Show me one place where I have even indicated I believe the birthers? You can't!!!
yes, i can. from this thread:
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Originally Posted by nmnita
I hope there is no repeat of the Obama situation, no one needs to live through something like that again, but there is still a difference: in the case of Cruz, you are right, a simple explanation will settle the debate, in the case of Obama, there was a question as to the whereabouts and legalization of his birth certificate, huge difference.
obama released his COLB online in june 2008. the information on it was confirmed by the HI department of health in october 2008. if you are not questioning the "whereabouts and legalization" of the COLB then please explain why you believe there is a "huge difference" when compared to cruz.
I hope there is no repeat of the Obama situation, no one needs to live through something like that again, but there is still a difference: in the case of Cruz, you are right, a simple explanation will settle the debate, in the case of Obama, there was a question as to the whereabouts and legalization of his birth certificate, huge difference.
obama released his COLB online in june 2008. the information on it was confirmed by the HI department of health in october 2008. if you are not questioning the "whereabouts and legalization" of the COLB then please explain why you believe there is a "huge difference" when compared to cruz.
We all know what that "huge difference" is, don't we?
I actually think the passive birthers are worse than those who actively promote it. By not coming right out and denouncing birthers, they tacitly keep the issue alive. Nita is one such passive birther.
The jury is not still out. It's been definitively settled by the state of Hawaii. Over 200 lawsuits have been thrown out of court. The Supreme Court refused to consider it. Not a single congress person will take up your idiotic quest. Why do you think that is?
I'm sorry if you don't like it that your refusal to accept facts makes you look crazy, wacky and frankly, quite stupid, but that's your choice.
Ok legally you may be correct. The other consideration is the lack of transparency in this administration. This administration has more covers than the last 5 Presidents combined. You guys have this lengthy thread to defect from your guy. Like I have said in my mind there is a cover up and there has not been full disclosed. ( That's me).
For Now, we have to live the current evaluation of the Court and State of Ha. The Obama track record of Up holding the Office of President has many concerned.
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