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In 2012, I voted in the Michigan Republican primary. I voted for Mitt Romney. Do you know why? Because he was running against Rick Santorum. Romney is a reasonable, sane representative of the Republican party that most Americans would find palatable. Santorum is an extreme right-wing crazy type. If one of those had to win, I would much prefer Romney to do so, even though Obama ended up winning in the end.
I don't see why my situation was any different.
Yup. In 2012, the Republican party in my state decided to close their primary. Since I live in a sate with a Republican super-majority, by necessity, I am now a registered Republican. I registered only because in almost all of my local and district choices, all I have is one Republican or another Republican, and I always vote for the moderate over the extremist, if that's the choice.
We all have gone through 7 years of seriously crazy times, and the crazy hasn't been wrung out of the world yet. This is not the time to put the Ship of State on course with any radicals at the wheel right now.
This is not the time for purity. It remains a time when pragmatic responses are needed the most at all levels of government.
the tea party isnt extreme or radical. it has radical members just like any other group but ultimately its just a conservative group and focuses primarily on economic issues/small government.
the establishment vs tea party fight isnt moderate vs extremist. its conservative vs corrupt politician with no principles. you may not wish to support conservative beliefs but the alternative is just a "go along, get along" corrupt politics that is primarily for the benefit of politicians at the expense of Americans. when i hear polticians talk about how it was more peaceful in the past, they want you to believe it was because of compromise. not quite. it was because both sides worked out a way for the politicians to get what they want and screw over the taxpayers.
the tea party isnt extreme or radical. it has radical members just like any other group but ultimately its just a conservative group and focuses primarily on economic issues/small government.
the establishment vs tea party fight isnt moderate vs extremist. its conservative vs corrupt politician with no principles. you may not wish to support conservative beliefs but the alternative is just a "go along, get along" corrupt politics that is primarily for the benefit of politicians at the expense of Americans. when i hear polticians talk about how it was more peaceful in the past, they want you to believe it was because of compromise. not quite. it was because both sides worked out a way for the politicians to get what they want and screw over the taxpayers.
If that's your spin, fine, but mine is different.
Signed a longtime Fiscal conserv who will never, ever, ever support a TP candidate.
As long as we use one man, one vote, 2014 will keep repeating itself, with the Establishment continuing to win the majority of times versus the radicals. I'll be rooting the Establishment on.
Signed a longtime Fiscal conserv who will never, ever, ever support a TP candidate.
As long as we use one man, one vote, 2014 will keep repeating itself, with the Establishment continuing to win the majority of times versus the radicals. I'll be rooting the Establishment on.
you mean someone that thinks he is a fiscal conservative but he isnt one.
you mean someone that thinks he is a fiscal conservative but he isnt one.
Wrong. Fiscal conservs existed long before the TP. They are offering nothing new, just repackaging the old stuff. We've always had pols of both parties on every end of the spectrum, and we always will.
Wrong. Fiscal conservs existed long before the TP. They are offering nothing new, just repackaging the old stuff. We've always had pols of both parties on every end of the spectrum, and we always will.
if you were a fiscal conservative before the tea party came along, then you would be a member of the tea party today.
if you were a fiscal conservative before the tea party came along, then you would be a member of the tea party today.
Actually, that's not true.
The Tea Party's unwillingness to compromise, to actually do the job of governing, is a major problem. That's why they are labeled extremists. Our system of government REQUIRES compromise and negotiation. If the Tea Party wants to be a part of that government, they will have to learn to compromise and negotiate.
Also, local Tea Parties have taken numerous positions that go well beyond fiscal conservatism. Which is why many Republicans have been repulsed. And when a party takes the position that the problem is the voters, "how dare they think differently than the party", that's extremism. Any political party whose modus operandi is exclusivity is doomed to be a failed party. In a system where the majority make the decision, political parties need to foster inclusiveness, not exclusivity.
if you were a fiscal conservative before the tea party came along, then you would be a member of the tea party today.
Nope, as evidenced by your meager share of GOP voters. MOST fiscal conservs stayed right with the GOP; hence the TP crested in 2010, and today retains under 20% of the House-which is 55%+ GOP.
Nope, as evidenced by your meager share of GOP voters. MOST fiscal conservs stayed right with the GOP; hence the TP crested in 2010, and today retains under 20% of the House-which is 55%+ GOP.
Have fun trying to bribe more black democrats in the General, TP supporters will NOT be voting for any incumbents EVER again.
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