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Old 09-03-2014, 09:30 PM
 
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I tried reading Orsons positions early but can't get his site to work..
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Old 09-04-2014, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I was fixing to post this...was gonna ask everyone what they thought of this...the report I saw says the independent is actually beating Roberts head to head by 10%! Anyone know what he stands for?
All I've read is Orman has promised to be independent. His history tends to bear that out, as he is a former Democrat who ran as a Republican in a later race. He's a populist, and sometimes in a state that isn't happy with the choices offered by the major parties, independents become the people's alternative. It's a way the voters shake both parties up.

A 3-way split always favors the incumbent, and Roberts is not popular in Kansas. He is seen as being too close to the Beltway and doesn't pay enough attention to his home state. Apparently, he doesn't even own a home in Kansas anymore. At age 78, seeking a 4th term, a lot of Kansans think it's time for a change.

Taylor is the son of a former popular Governor, but his father has been out of office for a long time now, so the family connection isn't a strong point, and Taylor hasn't been much of a campaigner. Orman is getting endorsements from both parties, so it makes political sense, even though it's highly unusual.

That the same thing happened in Alaska is a true rarity, but the situation in Alaska is very similar to Kansas.

Maybe this will become a trend in the future? For sure, it is one way the voters can break the deadlocks in their states and in Washington. It could also be a way of creating a viable 3rd party if it does become a trend. The Big Center seems to always find a way to make itself heard.
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Do you think he's that stupid? If he does that, he's a one term wonder in Kansas.
Kathleen Sebelius was a 2 term governor, so you fail.
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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Oops, Taylor is going to be on the ballot after all. Roberts should win easily now.

Say bye bye to the Senate Democrats.
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Oops, Taylor is going to be on the ballot after all. Roberts should win easily now.

Say bye bye to the Senate Democrats.
So you are admitting you thought Roberts was going to lose, great.
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I had seen the polling on this race for a whole, but hadnt really thought about it till the whole Paul Davis thing came about.

Roberts is an incumbent who cant break 40%


I think PPP's polling is what made the difference in Him dropping out. They did one of those tier polling experiments

Roberts vs Talyor with no one else on the ballot is a 4 point race in favor of Roberts (43-39 with 17% undecided )


Roberts vs Orman is a 10 point spread in favor of Orman (43-33 24% with undecided)

Orman Opens up the electorate, making even those on the right think twice, where as it seems Talyor ha(s/d) a ceiling.
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Old 09-04-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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I had seen the polling on this race for a whole, but hadnt really thought about it till the whole Paul Davis thing came about.

Roberts is an incumbent who cant break 40%


I think PPP's polling is what made the difference in Him dropping out. They did one of those tier polling experiments

Roberts vs Talyor with no one else on the ballot is a 4 point race in favor of Roberts (43-39 with 17% undecided )


Roberts vs Orman is a 10 point spread in favor of Orman (43-33 24% with undecided)

Orman Opens up the electorate, making even those on the right think twice, where as it seems Talyor ha(s/d) a ceiling.
If I was a rabid Roberts supporter I'd have my fingers crossed. He's been around a long time, maybe too long. He has the nickname of Virginia's third senator because that's where he actually lives.
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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There is now ZERO chance a Democrat wins the Senate seat in Kansas. Great news!
And less chance for the R... even better news. I would love to see a lot more independents in the mix.
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Old 09-13-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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And less chance for the R... even better news. I would love to see a lot more independents in the mix.
Me, too. A few loose cannons that won't fall into line with any caucus predictably would change a lot in Congress right now. More independents could help break up the ideological logjam.
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Old 09-14-2014, 05:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Makes the case to amend the 17th amendment and going back to the original intent of the constitution.

This obviously isn't working. When once elected, they move permanently to DC.


Harry Reid, didn't go back to Nevada during this recession.
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