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Old 03-16-2015, 06:23 AM
 
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Old 03-16-2015, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Jeb Bush can beat her. He is the only Republican so far that is center enough to give her trouble and his name is much less of an issue if he is facing a "Clinton". I'll consider Bush myself as long as he stays true to his values and does not pander to the wingnut faction like Romney did.
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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Jeb Bush can beat her. He is the only Republican so far that is center enough to give her trouble and his name is much less of an issue if he is facing a "Clinton". I'll consider Bush myself as long as he stays true to his values and does not pander to the wingnut faction like Romney did.
Bush father was a real politician. But Bush Jr was nothing comparable. So far, the latest experience was unconvincing, a mixed picture.
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:27 AM
 
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Bush father was a real politician. But Bush Jr was nothing comparable. So far, the latest experience was unconvincing, a mixed picture.
Agreed. Bush 41 has my respect; his son, 43, not so much.
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Old 03-16-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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Jeb Bush can beat her. He is the only Republican so far that is center enough to give her trouble and his name is much less of an issue if he is facing a "Clinton". I'll consider Bush myself as long as he stays true to his values and does not pander to the wingnut faction like Romney did.
what values is that? for amnesty and the same liberal policies of education and big government????? is that what you think Jeb has to do to beat Hillary? lol


What wingnut faction Romney pander to???? that he was against Amnesty. That he was for limited government, low taxes, balanced budget, free market and that he actually knew about the private sector.....is that what you call wingnut faction?



Sorry you are clueless, we don't need 2 candidates in the general election for amnesty and pretty much for the same policies of the past........Hillary for sure would beat Jeb...........both Bushes tarnished the Republican name and you think a 3rd Bush will make people forget? lol

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Old 03-16-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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Bush father was a real politician. But Bush Jr was nothing comparable. So far, the latest experience was unconvincing, a mixed picture.


say what you want about W Bush....He won 2 terms unlike his father that was a 1 term president......I say W BUSH was a better politician.


being a good politician and a good leader are 2 different things........Obama is a good politician but not a good leader.
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Is Hillary the inevitable Democratic nominee for 2016? I know people thought she was in 2008 but Obama came in from out of nowhere and took her out. Personally I like Hillary but I don't really like Presidential dynasties (No Clintons or Bushes). I will probably end up voting for her anyway but I want to know does everybody think she is inevitable or will somebody come in from out of nowhere like Obama did?

Whoever the Democrat is they will probably win in a landslide being that Obama will likely leave office on a high note (recovering economy, no war) and I don't think America is ready for another Republican quite yet. The Republicans will also probably run on culture war issues which will alienate everyone outside the South.

With that in mind, the Democratic primary will be the most important election in determining who the next President will be.
She still has the upper hand, but the way things are going this could change quickly. She might even decide not to run. I think that is pretty unlikely, she is too arrogant to think anything she does can hurt her, but her attitude and defenseness could end the likelyhood she could beat a strong Republican in 2016. So, run, probably, get the nomination, possibly, win in 2016 not as likely as it seemed at one time.
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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She still has the upper hand, but the way things are going this could change quickly. She might even decide not to run. I think that is pretty unlikely, she is too arrogant to think anything she does can hurt her, but her attitude and defenseness could end the likelyhood she could beat a strong Republican in 2016. So, run, probably, get the nomination, possibly, win in 2016 not as likely as it seemed at one time.
I do not believe she will run. Call me crazy, and I could be wrong, but I do not believe she will do it.
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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She will be the first woman President in this country's history. There isn't a Republican alive who can beat her. Republicans know this, and are in a panic, working 24/7 obsessing on how to discredit her with nonsense like that email non-issue.

Hillary will not even get a chance to run. She will be fighting to stay out of jail and keeping her family's fake foundation from being dissolved. America does not want a return to the era of bimbo eruptions and double standards.
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Old 03-17-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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I do not believe she will run. Call me crazy, and I could be wrong, but I do not believe she will do it.
I believe this as well, I don't understand why our view is in the minority. Let's review the facts here:

1) Hillary Clinton is relatively centrist for a Democrat ... in a Democratic Party that is going increasingly further and further to the left. This is the age of the "progressives" like Bill de Blasio and Elizabeth Warren. The Clinton's and their "third way"/"New Democrats" are so 1990s.

2) Hillary Clinton is getting old and has numerous health problems. Furthermore she just became a grandmother and has stated several times that she wants to do "the grandmother thing", she herself has also stated that she wants "to be a grandmother more than I want to be president".

3) Related to #1, many more leftist Democrats view Hillary as being a rich Wall Street shill. She's not leftist enough for the modern Democratic Party.

4) Hillary has alot of skeletons in her closet.

She's a has been, her time was in 2004. She won't run.
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