Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 09-30-2015, 09:58 AM
 
4,814 posts, read 3,847,656 times
Reputation: 1120

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
What that poll proves is that Cruz has strong support from his fellow Republican politicians in the state. It says nothing about the where the people of Texas stand on Cruz or Trump.
Yes, it does, as they are both running for the presidency. If Trump was a shoo-in, Cruz wouldn't be getting this kind of support. Texas always carries the Republican nominee.

 
Old 09-30-2015, 10:33 AM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,087,106 times
Reputation: 14688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On View Post
Yes, it does, as they are both running for the presidency. If Trump was a shoo-in, Cruz wouldn't be getting this kind of support. Texas always carries the Republican nominee.
Once again, it is the support of the politicians in Texas, not the voters. The voters are contradicting your conclusion.

"The poll found Trump leading Cruz with 24 percent support from registered Republican voters, compared to the Texas lawmaker’s 16 percent."

Poll: Trump beats Cruz in Texas | TheHill
 
Old 09-30-2015, 04:49 PM
 
4,814 posts, read 3,847,656 times
Reputation: 1120
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
Once again, it is the support of the politicians in Texas, not the voters. The voters are contradicting your conclusion.

"The poll found Trump leading Cruz with 24 percent support from registered Republican voters, compared to the Texas lawmaker’s 16 percent."

Poll: Trump beats Cruz in Texas | TheHill
Your poll is from over a month ago, and we need to remember that polling right now means nothing. It is only there to manipulate.

We have seen a lot of unreliable pre-election polling data of late - Israel's election, UK polling, etc. Nate Silver wrote an article how the polls are failing us, in May of this year.
Nate Silver: Polls are failing us - POLITICO

The point is that Ted Cruz has a good ground game and is continuing to have people backing him. If that wasn't the case, these lawmakers would head in another direction - especially with the polling out there.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 05:13 PM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,087,106 times
Reputation: 14688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On View Post
Your poll is from over a month ago, and we need to remember that polling right now means nothing. It is only there to manipulate.

We have seen a lot of unreliable pre-election polling data of late - Israel's election, UK polling, etc. Nate Silver wrote an article how the polls are failing us, in May of this year.
Nate Silver: Polls are failing us - POLITICO

The point is that Ted Cruz has a good ground game and is continuing to have people backing him. If that wasn't the case, these lawmakers would head in another direction - especially with the polling out there.
LOL. You start out by saying that polls are meaningless and unreliable, and then you turn around and say that Cruz must be doing well because the Texas politicians are backing him in spite of the polling out there. You don't get to have it both ways.

And the fact remains that as of four weeks ago, the majority of Republican Texans were supporting Trump, not Cruz. You have shown nothing that would indicate that has changed except for your own wishful thinking.

No matter which poll you look at, Cruz has yet to break out of single digits. They can't ALL be wrong ALL the time. He's at or near the bottom in every single one of them. But yeah, you keep believing that because the politicians in his home state support him, all the polls must be wrong.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 08:59 PM
 
4,814 posts, read 3,847,656 times
Reputation: 1120
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
LOL. You start out by saying that polls are meaningless and unreliable, and then you turn around and say that Cruz must be doing well because the Texas politicians are backing him in spite of the polling out there. You don't get to have it both ways.
As in - people can be and are manipulated by the polling. Obviously, these lawmakers didn't take the bait and listened to what Ted Cruz had to say. I can have confidence in those type of people.

Quote:
And the fact remains that as of four weeks ago, the majority of Republican Texans were supporting Trump, not Cruz. You have shown nothing that would indicate that has changed except for your own wishful thinking.

No matter which poll you look at, Cruz has yet to break out of single digits. They can't ALL be wrong ALL the time. He's at or near the bottom in every single one of them. But yeah, you keep believing that because the politicians in his home state support him, all the polls must be wrong.
Well, Netyanhu was supposed to lose by the polling "manipulation" and we can get into the UK and others. It's too early to tell.

Now, if he didn't raise enough this cycle, as the deadline was today, I might agree it won't look good for him. We shall see. After the last debate he picked up quite a load in only 48 hours. The first debate it took 100 hours. So, that is progress.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 09:00 PM
 
4,814 posts, read 3,847,656 times
Reputation: 1120
What No One Seems To Know About Ted Cruz’s Past

Cruz was once a director at the Federal Trade Commission. He had a remarkable record of convincing Democrats to vote for conservative principles.

What No One Seems To Know About Ted Cruz’s Past | PJ Media


 
Old 09-30-2015, 09:35 PM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,087,106 times
Reputation: 14688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On View Post
What No One Seems To Know About Ted Cruz’s Past

Cruz was once a director at the Federal Trade Commission. He had a remarkable record of convincing Democrats to vote for conservative principles.

What No One Seems To Know About Ted Cruz’s Past | PJ Media


Right now Cruz can't convince his own colleagues in the Senate to hold a roll call vote. They all shouted, "NO!" when he requested it. He's alienated everyone on both sides of the aisle so thoroughly that he is virtually dead in the water politically. Despite being told again and again that he was a brilliant debater he was a non-presence in both of them. No one was talking about him following the debates. He was barely mentioned in any news print and he sure didn't make the newscasts. It was as if he wasn't even on that stage. And his poll numbers, mired firmly in the single digits, accurately reflects what the country in general thinks about him. The latest polling has him underwater in the favorable/unfavorable rating by a margin of +18 percent unfavorable.

Stick a fork in him.
 
Old 10-01-2015, 08:47 AM
 
4,814 posts, read 3,847,656 times
Reputation: 1120
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
Right now Cruz can't convince his own colleagues in the Senate to hold a roll call vote. They all shouted, "NO!" when he requested it. He's alienated everyone on both sides of the aisle so thoroughly that he is virtually dead in the water politically. Despite being told again and again that he was a brilliant debater he was a non-presence in both of them. No one was talking about him following the debates. He was barely mentioned in any news print and he sure didn't make the newscasts. It was as if he wasn't even on that stage. And his poll numbers, mired firmly in the single digits, accurately reflects what the country in general thinks about him. The latest polling has him underwater in the favorable/unfavorable rating by a margin of +18 percent unfavorable.

Stick a fork in him.
It is not Ted Cruz's fault that most of the Senate want a sound byte or a show vote. If Ted Cruz is not able to win the presidency, he leaves with his integrity. He is doing exactly what he promised he would do, fight for what is right.

Yet, in that promise, the Establishment and media want to silence him. That is a sad day in America and why people hate both political parties - the go along to get along is not what democracy is about.
 
Old 10-01-2015, 09:24 AM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,087,106 times
Reputation: 14688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On View Post
It is not Ted Cruz's fault that most of the Senate want a sound byte or a show vote. If Ted Cruz is not able to win the presidency, he leaves with his integrity. He is doing exactly what he promised he would do, fight for what is right.

Yet, in that promise, the Establishment and media want to silence him. That is a sad day in America and why people hate both political parties - the go along to get along is not what democracy is about.
His colleagues got tired of his showboating, which was designed for the sole purpose of getting his face on camera, to the detriment of his party. Shutting Cruz down is one of the few things the GOP has done right.
 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:28 AM
 
4,814 posts, read 3,847,656 times
Reputation: 1120
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
His colleagues got tired of his showboating, which was designed for the sole purpose of getting his face on camera, to the detriment of his party. Shutting Cruz down is one of the few things the GOP has done right.
It's not a good argument when you look at his record. It only shows that he is a solid, consistent conservative.

You didn't read the facts included in this article. The media is distorting who Ted Cruz really is, what he believes and what he stands for - consistently. Now that we have that type of candidate, the GOP Establishment doesn't want him. Go figure.

Quote:
Moreover, and perhaps surprising to some, Cruz sought and secured a broad, bipartisan consensus for his agenda. Almost all of Cruz’s initiatives received unanimous support among both Republicans and Democrats.
What No One Seems to Know About Ted Cruz’s Past | PJ Media
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top