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" What are you going to do, put them in jail for the rest of their lives? "
He, like all candidates, is simply pandering/ dancing because there are no solutions. Throw $10 million at mental health and move on.
Tens of millions of U.S. employees don't get along with their bosses and/ or co- workers.
Millions of U.S. employees have claimed discrimination.
Tens of millions of people blame and are angry.
Should all of these people be institutionalized, just in case?
Shooter had no history of violence. He was arrested for a traffic violation in 2004, a misdemeanor that was dismissed. He had no history of mental illness.
So Trump is going to advocate a few hundred billion to bring the mentally ill back under control? It is no small undertaking. If you are going to go out and get help for all those with anger control problems.
I would think that does not work on the right. More expansion of government.
It would require $ trillions to institutionalize every person who could not get along with his/ her boss and/ or co- workers as well as those who blame fill in the blank for problems of their own making.
Keeping guns out of the hands of those that commit the senseless killings, using a firearm, knife, bat...
You either get rid of all guns, knives, bats...., including police and military weapons,
or you kill all the people in the world.
It is that black & white.
Anyone, can snap into a rage, at any moment in time. Even government.
You cannot prevent killing. You can only control yourself, from being put in the position of being killed.
It would require $ trillions to institutionalize every person who could not get along with his/ her boss and/ or co- workers as well as those who blame fill in the blank for problems of their own making.
Of course. But even to provide outpatient treatment in any big way would cost billions which is probably the cheapest solution. So is Trump advocating such a path?
I doubt many conservatives give 2 cents about anyone named Kardashian.
A democrat would never propose "these things" because most politicians aren't interested in solving the actual problem, they just want to point to a problem and then use it to create fear and restrict rights.
Similar to the Bernie "income inequality" thread. Where he makes a good point about money controlling the politicians, but rather than addressing the laws that allow for such cash control, he'd rather steal from the wealthy in the name of income equality.
That's not actually his proposed policy. He wants campaign finance reform.and " stealing from the rich" is a little on the extreme side when you speak of his income gap policies. The bifurcation of wealth in this country is a problem. It's going to turn us into Mexico if we allow this to continue unchecked.
Trump is right about the major issue with guns and mass shootings. That's a mental health crisis, and we have a big one on our hands. Money does need to be thrown at that problem for all of our sakes.
Criminals and crazy people who are determined to watch the world burn will always fing a way to get a weapon. Guns are not the problem. Crime and mental health issues are the problem.
Gun control is just a wedge issue to divide all of us.
" What are you going to do, put them in jail for the rest of their lives? "
He, like all candidates, is simply pandering/ dancing because there are no solutions. Throw $10 million at mental health and move on.
Tens of millions of U.S. employees don't get along with their bosses and/ or co- workers.
Millions of U.S. employees have claimed discrimination.
Tens of millions of people blame and are angry.
Should all of these people be institutionalized, just in case?
Shooter had no history of violence. He was arrested for a traffic violation in 2004, a misdemeanor that was dismissed. He had no history of mental illness.
Well to keep this realistic you can certainly cut down on the effectiveness of mass murderers by removing firearms. Real hard to kill a dozen people in a movie theater with a bat or a knife. Even to kill two people with a bat would be a tall order.
The other approach is to simply accept these deaths as costs of our 2nd amendment and the good it hopefully does.
I would think that does not work on the right. More expansion of government.
I am fine with tax dollars going to mental institutions. Build them. The alternative is the failed experiment we have now of trying to make crazy people blend into society or end up in jail or in the streets. They already benefit from tax dollars. It's worth removing the risk from society.
Well to keep this realistic you can certainly cut down on the effectiveness of mass murderers by removing firearms. Real hard to kill a dozen people in a movie theater with a bat or a knife. Even to kill two people with a bat would be a tall order.
The other approach is to simply accept these deaths as costs of our 2nd amendment and the good it hopefully does.
Are you volunteering to confiscate 350+ million guns in private hands?
I am fine with tax dollars going to mental institutions. Build them. The alternative is the failed experiment we have now of trying to make crazy people blend into society or end up in jail or in the streets. They already benefit from tax dollars. It's worth removing the risk from society.
Obamacare and its expansion of Medicare has taken care of this problem.
Not really, what happens is we think we can medicate everyone to fix things. It isn't a bad idea but during the implementation the problem people don't often keep taking their meds thinking they are alright.
Schizophrenia as an example needs their medications or without it they are major problems. They stop their stuff and their can be violence or very expensive care not far behind.
We don't have the money to watch these people 24-7, so maybe how you fix this is you make them live close to a places where they will be required to go in daily to get their medication in front of witnesses. Then if they don't in you go get them.
If we don't do that then you go back to what people across the world used to do which is lobotomies.
Unless deemed immediately dangerous to themselves or others, no one can be forced to take meds against their will.
Symptoms of ^ disorders/ illnesses are rarely present 24/7, let alone 365.
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