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People need to feel more confortable calling in on people they know what who are showing paranoid behavior. There needs to be more money made available for mental health review and holds. If you pass a quick review you go, if not you stay for 72 hr hold. I am very anti big government, but this is one of those few exceptions, there are signs with these people and we need to help them.
Of course. But even to provide outpatient treatment in any big way would cost billions which is probably the cheapest solution. So is Trump advocating such a path?
That would be the obvious conclusion from what I wrote. After you gunnies got passed your preconceived objections. I find it charming you guys can't even deal with someone agreeing with you.
Not actually a fan of wide spread gun ownership. But given where we are it is the best course available.
I perceived your post with the context of your past comment history to be leaning more towards the former.
People need to feel more confortable calling in on people they know what who are showing paranoid behavior. There needs to be more money made available for mental health review and holds. If you pass a quick review you go, if not you stay for 72 hr hold. I am very anti big government, but this is one of those few exceptions, there are signs with these people and we need to help them.
What could go wrong, let's call the government on everyone who has a bad day.
The mentally ill can kill with knives, hammers, cars, rocks, glass, nails, staplers, broomsticks, forks, bricks, drugs, poison, pens, pencils, figurines and so forth.
We can't pad the world for mental people and they have a habit of being bad at self medicating.
No country has the resources to watch them 24-7, so lobotomy or watch them medicate are the two that can be done.
All true but no where near as effective as guns. They could make their own bombs too but that is actually pretty rare. Simply providing medical access would likely fix a lot of it but cost money. And that would give us the opportunity to sort out some of the really dangerous.
So is Trump supporting a substantial mental illness initiative or is he ducking the gun issue.
All true but no where near as effective as guns. They could make their own bombs too but that is actually pretty rare. Simply providing medical access would likely fix a lot of it but cost money. And that would give us the opportunity to sort out some of the really dangerous.
So is Trump supporting a substantial mental illness initiative or is he ducking the gun issue.
Medicare expansion and obamacare has provided the access.
The resources are there, it is the unwillingness of individuals to get sucked into a system that has historically been against their best interests.
I perceived your post with the context of your past comment history to be leaning more towards the former.
No you did not. My view on guns and gun ownership has been the same at least as far back as the USSC decision. I had hoped the court would come down on the side of the founders who clearly wanted a populace loaded up to be able to overthrow the government. That would have enabled a significant dialog on what we actually wanted on the issue. Now we will be better off simply decontrolling guns until such time as the country decides otherwise.
Well to keep this realistic you can certainly cut down on the effectiveness of mass murderers by removing firearms. Real hard to kill a dozen people in a movie theater with a bat or a knife. Even to kill two people with a bat would be a tall order.
The other approach is to simply accept these deaths as costs of our 2nd amendment and the good it hopefully does.
The US has, by far, the highest per capita gun ownership rate in the world.
The 2nd amendment is not going anywhere.
The masses want government to do something.
Throw some money at mental illness and move on.
Rinse/repeat.
Sad but true this is the price of the 2nd amendment.
Medicare expansion and obamacare has provided the access.
The resources are there, it is the unwillingness of individuals to get sucked into a system that has historically been against their best interests.
No simply untrue. Nevada demonstrated how it really worked with our policy of given the mentally ill bus tickets to elsewhere. And simply maintaining reasonable medical supervision for a mentally ill person is practically impossible without private medical insurance.
The US has, by far, the highest per capita gun ownership rate in the world.
The 2nd amendment is not going anywhere.
The masses want government to do something.
Throw some money at mental illness and move on.
Rinse/repeat.
Sad but true this is the price of the 2nd amendment.
In the days this nation was founded, there were ways to deal with those that snap.
A punch in the nose, which lead to a duel at 10 paces.......
Anything else was murder.
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