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Ah the Ron Paul effect. All those super popular rallies and signs and stickers everywhere never translated into victory for Ron or Rand for that matter, and they likely won't for Trump, either.
Read my post. I said rapidly shrinking white, non-college educated voter base. Whites are shrinking as a share of the entire electorate, yes, but the GOP distinctly depends on white, non-college educated for their base. The fastest shrinking demographic in the entire USA are whites with only a high school or vocational school level of education. These are where Trump gets the overwhelming majority of his support
Nope. Ron Paul never filled venues consistently everywhere he went. The last politician to do this was Obama in 2008. And we know how that worked out.
I read your post. It's based on assumption & wishful thinking, not any relevant facts. If you wish to provide some census numbers to prove it then please do so. But, I'm guessing you won't because they prove your wrong. Furthermore Trump's appeal goes well beyond non-college educated White males.
The reason that Trump is doing so well in places like Charlotte & Raleigh is because the Democrats have lost the middle class and both metros have huge middle class populations. It's the very reason that NC, which voted in Obama, a DNC Governor, and DNC senator in '08, voted them all out by 2014. The middle class will be voting their pocketbook and for that, Trump is their man.
Mitt Romney won 27% of the Hispanic vote in 2012. The GOP's own autopsy report after that election showed that the party cannot win a Presidential election with those numbers. In fact, they need to win at least 40%.
Do you really think that Donald Trump is going to improve on that 27%?
Mitt Romney won 27% of the Hispanic vote in 2012. The GOP's own autopsy report after that election showed that the party cannot win a Presidential election with those numbers. In fact, they need to win at least 40%.
Do you really think that Donald Trump is going to improve on that 27%?
The economy will also play a big roll. Today the market was down over 300 points. Of course it has fluctuated many times recently. But if it goes down and stays down; that will play against the Democrats.
Currently there have been minorities, both Black and Hispanic , hurt by all of the illegal immigration. If people feel that they would have a better life if they could work; that could play out in your percentages.
There is nothing for me to worry about. But, that doesn't mean Democrats should take anything for granted, either. Hillary is not the strongest candidate, but nominating an unhinged crazy will hand the election to her.
Hmmm. Clinton is weak and one of the most corrupt, if not the most corrupt candidate in recent memory and will only continue Obama's failed policies if elected. A couple of Trump's comments he probably wishes he could take back, but over all, his policies to make America great make sense. Unhinged? Not by a long shot.
One more thing. The election is eleven months away, and anything can happen between now and then. Relax, you'll sleep better.
The economy will also play a big roll. Today the market was down over 300 points. Of course it has fluctuated many times recently. But if it goes down and stays down; that will play against the Democrats.
Currently there have been minorities, both Black and Hispanic , hurt by all of the illegal immigration. If people feel that they would have a better life if they could work; that could play out in your percentages.
The economy was more in the toilet in 2012, and Obama still won and 2012 was for the Democrats to lose, not win. You're also assuming that Latinos and Blacks actually care about illegal immigration the same way the Republican base does. Hate to break it to you, we don't
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Nope. Ron Paul never filled venues consistently everywhere he went. The last politician to do this was Obama in 2008. And we know how that worked out.
I read your post. It's based on assumption & wishful thinking, not any relevant facts. If you wish to provide some census numbers to prove it then please do so. But, I'm guessing you won't because they prove your wrong. Furthermore Trump's appeal goes well beyond non-college educated White males.
The reason that Trump is doing so well in places like Charlotte & Raleigh is because the Democrats have lost the middle class and both metros have huge middle class populations. It's the very reason that NC, which voted in Obama, a DNC Governor, and DNC senator in '08, voted them all out by 2014. The middle class will be voting their pocketbook and for that, Trump is their man.
I know you're a true believer, and true believers will never be convinced until their man loses, however
Trump is not going to win anything. He can lose the nomination altogether, or he's going to lose in the general election as the Republican or the 3rd party. Either way, look forward to Hillary 2016 if Republicans hitch their wagon to Trump . Every pollster, with the exception of Fox News , predicts a Hillary win . Trump is Ross Perot 2016, and make no mistake about it
We're in for President Hillary Clinton regardless of what Trump does or doesn't do. The only question is whether or not Trump will entertain us along the way.
We're in for President Hillary Clinton regardless of what Trump does or doesn't do. The only question is whether or not Trump will entertain us along the way.
Go Trump!
I WANT Trump to win the nomination, that will ensure a Hillary win . Every poll, except Fox News naturally, has Hillary beating Trump. The GOP did Hillary a HUGE favor and made her look competent when she was being grilled on Benghazi and other nonsense. You can read all of the pro-Trump responses on here and they all still think Benghazi will be her Waterloo. That's what they mean by corrupt and such. The only reason why Trump is strong in the polls and relevant still, is because he's avoiding the mistakes the GOP clown car rising starts made in 2012. When his poll numbers dip again like they did in the past month or so, he'll say something outrageous again to re-energize media interest in his campaign.
Dead heat or not, winning even +1 or +2 still means Hillary wins. The GOP train wreck will be so much fun to see, 2016 will be for Republicans what 1968 was for Democrats
A LOT can happen between now and 2016. Like a major terrorist attack and; people NOT thinking that Obama took care of business.
Too; like Waldokitty said, Hillary in spite of her serious money, she and Trump are neck and neck. That's assuming that Hillary doesn't get "legally" taken out between now and then; she has a LOT of enemies IMHO.
The economy was more in the toilet in 2012, and Obama still won and 2012 was for the Democrats to lose, not win. You're also assuming that Latinos and Blacks actually care about illegal immigration the same way the Republican base does. Hate to break it to you, we don't
Some people do like to work. Nobody speaks for any race or ethnicity. Every individual looks at their own personal station in life and makes their decisions based on their own experiences. I have heard some grumblings from both Hispanics and Blacks that the jobs have been given to those that have not paid their dues. It is also way too early to say what the economy will be doing next November.
Trump's main base of support is the Deep South and Midwest, states with a rapidly shrinking white, non-college educated voter base. The GOP is definitely toast if blacks and Hispanics in swing states turn out like they did in 2012. In VA and NC, states with increasing white moderates and shrinking white RW extremists, will hand Hillary the election if Trump is nominated. Trump doesn't do so well with moderate voters which are concentrated in NoVA and Raleigh/Durham and Charlotte.
Since Obama NEVER got amnesty for illegal aliens; IMHO many "Hispanics" will sit this out because they don't trust either Trump OR Hillary. Blacks: Hillary ain't Obama.
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. Every pollster, with the exception of Fox News 
, predicts a Hillary win 
. Every poll, except Fox News naturally, has Hillary beating Trump. The GOP did Hillary a HUGE favor and made her look competent when she was being grilled on Benghazi and other nonsense. You can read all of the pro-Trump responses on here and they all still think Benghazi will be her Waterloo. That's what they mean by corrupt and such. The only reason why Trump is strong in the polls and relevant still, is because he's avoiding the mistakes the GOP clown car rising starts made in 2012. When his poll numbers dip again like they did in the past month or so, he'll say something outrageous again to re-energize media interest in his campaign.
