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Old 12-16-2015, 06:56 AM
 
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Mitt Romney won 27% of the Hispanic vote in 2012. The GOP's own autopsy report after that election showed that the party cannot win a Presidential election with those numbers. In fact, they need to win at least 40%.

Do you really think that Donald Trump is going to improve on that 27%?
Nope, Republicans in 2012 found out, that if conservatives stay home in large numbers, they can't win elections.
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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Nope, Republicans in 2012 found out, that if conservatives stay home in large numbers, they can't win elections.
Yet, this analysis suggests that Republicans did not, in fact, sit out the 2012 election:


Strassel: The GOP Turnout Myth - WSJ


From the article (discussing the battle-ground states):


"Mr. Romney beat Mr. McCain's numbers in every single battleground, save Ohio. In some cases, his improvement was significant. In Virginia, 65,000 more votes than in 2008. In Florida, 117,000 more votes. In Colorado, 52,000. In Wisconsin, 146,000. Moreover, in key states like Florida, North Carolina, Colorado and Virginia, Mr. Romney turned out even more voters than George W. Bush did in his successful re-election in 2004."


It was an interesting article.
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Old 12-16-2015, 08:09 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Nope, Republicans in 2012 found out, that if conservatives stay home in large numbers, they can't win elections.
There are no stay at home conservatives, the GOP has maxed out the angry old White people vote.

We're going to have to either keep on losing the White House or expand our coalition to include non-Whites which means we're going to have to ditch the trailer trash from the Deep South and the Midwest.
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Old 12-16-2015, 09:29 AM
 
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The only thing that matters are the swing states and how they're polling. The big states are set which party they vote regardless how good or bad the candidates.
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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I mean, LBJ getting 90 percent of the electoral votes, as well as 61 percent of the popular vote, is pretty one-sided. LBJ also portrayed Senator Goldwater was an 'out of control' right-wing hawk, such as in the famous TV ad with the little girl picking flowers while a nuclear bomb goes off.

I believe that Mr. Trump, should he be the Republican nominee, would be subjected to the same type of attack ads. Of course, the Super Pacs will not only target Trump, but Hillary Rodham Clinton, so it is probably a wash-out, in that respect. .
No not the same all.

Hillary won't go there because she has the Obama Administrations poor showing to answer for. We are currently mired down in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. No end in sight, and Hillary was party of the administration that was supposed to end all of it. Instead it's been failure after failure.

If they try to throw that rock at Trump, Trump will pick up a bigger one and throw it right back at them.
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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No not the same all.

Hillary won't go there because she has the Obama Administrations poor showing to answer for. We are currently mired down in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. No end in sight, and Hillary was party of the administration that was supposed to end all of it. Instead it's been failure after failure.

If they try to throw that rock at Trump, Trump will pick up a bigger one and throw it right back at them.
True.


But the unknown here is still the FBI. Until that Army General remanded the deserter for Courts Martial trial, I thought the Kenyan and company would be able to stifle any and all investigations. I now have hope that the FBI will follow the example. Having said that, it is a given that the DOJ will find some idiot reason to let her majesty off (a la Lois Learner) but that revelation in itself might be enough for a draft Joe cry at the dim convention. Only time will tell.

El Nox
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Trump is not going to win anything. He can lose the nomination altogether, or he's going to lose in the general election as the Republican or the 3rd party. Either way, look forward to Hillary 2016 if Republicans hitch their wagon to Trump . Every pollster, with the exception of Fox News , predicts a Hillary win . Trump is Ross Perot 2016, and make no mistake about it

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
Okay, we'll put you in the George Will Stack of Prognosticators.
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