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There is a bit of confusion on this hole thing. Some genuine not totally understanding it and others just shouting crap to cause confusion.
1. Both sides have unpledged delegates. The Democrats call them Super Delegates, but the GOP has something similar.
2. For the Democrats the Super Delegates make up 14.9% of the overall Delegates, on the GOP side it is 6.25%. It use to be higher on the GOP side, but they have recently started to bind some of their party leader delegates to the vote of the Primary and Caucus. This decision is done by state party leadership and can vary state by state, they just did that with New Hampshire.
3. Republican unpledged delegates do not announce their support until the Convention, Democratic Super Delegates can announce their support prior to the Convention. However, they are not bound to the candidate they say they support until they actually vote for them at the Covention, so they really aren't "pledged" at that point. Super Delegates can and have switched.
4. The Unpledged or superDelegates have NEVER overrode the Primary and Caucus results. They have always gone to the candidate who received the maority of the Delegates tied to the Primary and Caucus results.
"If you’re a Sanders supporter, you might think this seems profoundly unfair. And you’d be right: It’s profoundly unfair. Superdelegates were created in part to give Democratic party elites the opportunity to put their finger on the scale and prevent nominations like those of George McGovern in 1972 or Jimmy Carter in 1976, which displeased party insiders."
The Republican superdelegates do not have the freedom to vote for whichever candidate they want. The Republican party ruled in 2015 that their superdelegates, unlike Democrats, must vote for the candidate that their state voted for.
Bernie Sanders' fans can start whining when he gets at least half of 17.9 million votes that Hillary got in 2008.
There are some potential issues with the Superdelegates that do merit a bit of a discussion. With that being said, it really isn't the Bernie supporters who are doing the whining. Look at the posting history of those who are starting pretty much all of these threads. They are primarily Trump supporters.
With that being said, it really isn't the Bernie supporters who are doing the whining. Look at the posting history of those who are starting pretty much all of these threads. They are primarily Trump supporters.
OP is a Cruz supporter who considers Clinton a bigger threat than Bernie to his candidate.
Hmmm wonder why super delegates exist? Could Debbie Wasseman- Shultz let the cat out of the bag when she said this
superdelegates “exist... to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists."
So in a nut shell it exist for the establishment and their chosen ones to hold onto power and fend off the anti establishment and their grass roots support.
With that said if Sanders and Clinton run all through the 50 states and Sanders is only ahead by 75 delegates what do you think will happen? Keep in mind it is rumored that Clinton has over 300 super delegates in the bag.
With that said if Sanders and Clinton run all through the 50 states and Sanders is only ahead by 75 delegates what do you think will happen? Keep in mind it is rumored that Clinton has over 300 super delegates in the bag.
75 delegates is about 1.5%. The DNC may or may not see that as enough of an edge to deem Sanders electable in the general election. If the margin is that narrow, it will probably hinge on who has the strongest momentum going into the convention. The one thing I can guarantee you is they will nominate the candidate they think has the best chance of winning the election. They favor Clinton because of her long years of loyalty and hard work for the party and its candidates. But they'll dump her in a heartbeat if they think Sanders has the best chance of winning the general. They're keeping their eye on the prize.
I'm not sure the same applies to the GOP. Electability doesn't seem high on their list of desirable candidate qualifications. We'll see.
DNC super delegates, like RNC party leaders, are unpledged. Like the RNC party leaders, they can endorse. Unlike the RNC supporters, they can vote for whomever they please or can choose to abstain on the first ballot. But there will be only one ballot.
Nope. Go read the rules on the RNC site. That opinion article that you keep posting has it wrong. RNC has nothing like the DNC "Superdelegates".
4. The Unpledged or superDelegates have NEVER overrode the Primary and Caucus results. They have always gone to the candidate who received the maority of the Delegates tied to the Primary and Caucus results.
Yes they did. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2008. But when the Congressional Black Caucus pulled their support from Hillary and gave it to Obama, Obama got the nomination.
Yes they did. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2008. But when the Congressional Black Caucus pulled their support from Hillary and gave it to Obama, Obama got the nomination.
Not exactly. Using just the popular vote is missing a bunch of pieces for starters because only Clinton's named remained on the Michigan ballot after they had their delegates stripped initially from moving their Primary up. Secondly, the way the Caucus votes were tallied are a bit different than the Primary votes. Obama received more delegates than Clinton from the results tied directly to the Caucus and Primary results. The Superdelegates did break toward Obama, but they broke towards the candidate who received the most delegates frorm the votes tied directly to the Caucus and Primary.
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