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Old 02-14-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The party elects the candidates, not the voters when convention time comes.

The DNC primaries and caucuses are rigged for who the party decides, not who the people want.

1/3 of all delegates are in reserve. They are called Super-Delegates. It is the DNC's fail safe mechanism to keep people like Bernie Sanders from power.

1/3 of all delegates are for the Royalty called Hillary, before primaries and caucuses start.
The chosen one.

The opposing candidate has to practically win all primaries and caucuses to overcome it.
Bad news for Bernie.

Obama had 98% of the Black vote and grassroots ground game to overcome it in 2008
And when the Sanders' voters figure it out, they will stay home or vote for Trump if he's the nominee.
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Hope Bernie wins the Primaries with most votes. However, gets screwed by the DNC. Then runs as an independent and wins the election.
if delegates dont want him... what makes you think he would win the electoral college?
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Old 03-09-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Party bosses rule at the DNC, not the voters.
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Old 03-09-2016, 06:56 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Party bosses rule at the DNC, not the voters.

That can be said for the RNC, too. Ask Ron Paul and Donald Trump.
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Old 03-10-2016, 06:38 AM
 
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Well, it is unfortunate that the media doesn't do a very good... I take that back, it is unfortunate that the media does such a **** poor job of explaining how the primary process works while spending an inordinate amount of effort reporting on polls, and irrelevant minutia. It is inexcusable for the media to report that Super Delegates were awarded during these primaries and not that the Super Delegate votes were actually in place before the primary began.

Folks have a right to be angry based upon the misinformation that they were given.
No wonder, there were so few candidates on the Democratic, side. The Super Delegates were in place, giving Hillary the advantage before the race began. Would be like running in a marathon, the favorite guy/gal, given 500 yards and then the gun goes off, for the rest of us. What a lousy way to hold a presidential race. The electoral system seems rigged, too.

Why do we bother?

Why don't the powers that be, just go ahead and anoint the queen, king or dictator and quit handing out pacifiers, to the rest of us. Like we really have a say or a vote. This just stinks.

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Old 03-10-2016, 06:41 AM
 
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Excuse me Hillary has 1.6 million more votes than sanders
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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^The popular vote is the popular vote. Hillary won the popular vote, delegates nominated Obama. Spin it however you like, but that is what happened.


i.e. The popular vote doesn't matter with the Democrats. They will select their nominee Soviet style.
Oh, yeah?
Gore won the popular vote in 2000.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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^The popular vote is the popular vote. Hillary won the popular vote, delegates nominated Obama. Spin it however you like, but that is what happened.


i.e. The popular vote doesn't matter with the Democrats. They will select their nominee Soviet style.
Oh, yeah?
Gore won the popular vote in 2000.

Party delegates become the electoral college in the general election.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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Oh, yeah?
Gore won the popular vote in 2000.
Not in Florida.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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As it should be, and this goes for any political party.

In the U.S. what does party membership actually mean; just checking off a box on a voter registration card. You don't have to contribute to the party with money, attending meetings, working on campaigns, nothing. Without the nominal establishment of some functioning control by the leadership any snake oil selling demagogue with enough money can run for political office without the slightest regards for a political parties philosophy, objectives or traditions. Someone has to act in the role of gate keeper or what is the point of being a political party in the first place?

For example, in Great Britain, you have to be a dues paying member, that entitles you to vote in inter-party elections for political office. In the case of the Labor Party, the party can expel members who do not uphold the principles and objectives of that party. You can vote in the general election for the party candidates but as a non-party member you have no say in who that party selects as its slate of candidates.

Here folks are crying about thwarting democracy, well that is what the general election is for, you can vote for any candidate regardless of your own political affiliation. Voting in the primaries is in essence voting on the internal politics of quasi-private organizations. At a minimum, political parties should, must, have some overriding power to control the directions of their organizations.
As it should be? LMAO..What a crock. Why even have elections then?
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