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Old 03-21-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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Middle Class income reverting to the 1970s levels.
I thought people romanticized the 70s and 80s on this forum...
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I thought people romanticized the 70s and 80s on this forum...
So much so that they are willing to give up 40 years of income gains so that the Clintons can cash in to the tune of $153 million.

Clinton should be called the Queen of Slave Labor in history books since she's worked so hard for it.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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It was easy to Google:
The Clinton Presidency: Key Accomplishments
  • Longest economic expansion in American history
  • More than 22 million new jobs
  • Highest homeownership in American history
  • Lowest unemployment in 30 years
  • Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
  • Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
  • President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.
  • President Clinton and Vice President Gore's new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.
  • Lowest crime rate in 26 years
  • 100,000 more police for our streets
  • Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
  • Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americanser.
  • Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
  • Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
  • Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
  • Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
  • Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
  • Protected millions of acres of American land
  • Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
  • Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
  • Lowest government spending in three decades
  • Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
  • More families own stock than ever before
  • Most diverse cabinet in American history
This thread reminds me of this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE


That was Newt Gingrich and the "Contract with America" that accomplished most of this by keeping Clinton dodging investigations.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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We can all easily observe the net long term results of the Clinton Dynasty characterized by trade treaties and financial policies that benefited mega-corporations and the Super-Rich:

1) The largest wealth transfer from the Middle Class to the top 1% in our history.

2) Middle Class income reverting to the 1970s levels.

3) $153 million wealth transfer to the Clintons

4) Endless Middle East wars.

The rest is noise. Clinton is promising more of the same. I believe her.
First, we have gotten to where we are, namely, a largely free-trade world, through a generations-long process of international diplomacy, going all the way back to FDR. This process combines a series of quid pro quos, I'll open my markets if you open yours, with rules to prevent backsliding.

Second, protectionists almost always exaggerate the adverse effects of trade liberalization. Globalization is only one of several factors behind rising income inequality, and trade agreements are, in turn, only one factor in globalization. Trade deficits have been an important cause of the decline in U.S. manufacturing employment since 2000, but that decline began much earlier. And even our trade deficits are mainly a result of factors other than trade policy, like a strong dollar buoyed by global capital looking for a safe haven.

If we look at real median family income, we see it rising sharply during Clinton's Administration and falling thereafter.

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Old 03-21-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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That was Newt Gingrich and the "Contract with America" that accomplished most of this by keeping Clinton dodging investigations.
Yes, I know the rap -- if it's good, it's because of Republicans. If it's bad, President Clinton (or Obama) is at fault. We saw that with gas prices. When they were high, conservatives bashed Obama but didn't give him credit when they fell to record modern day lows.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: New York
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It's is nice to read Safire's opinion column and compare it to how those allegations were adjudicated.

While you try to make it appear unseemly for Citibank to donate to the Clinton campaign, what quid pro quo did Citibank receive?
MTAtech read many of your posts...

Specific to Banking - rather than lenders helping home owners, Big Banks (Citigroup) were more concerned with profit. For almost 70 years prior to the repealing of the Glass Steagall Act, there was a separation between investment banks and commercial ones. Does anyone remember banks like Countrywide or Ameriquest, that handed out bad mortgages. There was so much money making greed that caused millions across the country to lose their homes and livelihood.

As a mortgage financial analyst have first hand experience seeing incomes drop across the country. To the point there is no more middle class. People have lost their jobs either by companies closing down, or laid off because their job was eliminated. People are stretching their dollars more than ever...


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Old 03-21-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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First, we have gotten to where we are, namely, a largely free-trade world, through a generations-long process of international diplomacy, going all the way back to FDR. This process combines a series of quid pro quos, I'll open my markets if you open yours, with rules to prevent backsliding.

Second, protectionists almost always exaggerate the adverse effects of trade liberalization. Globalization is only one of several factors behind rising income inequality, and trade agreements are, in turn, only one factor in globalization. Trade deficits have been an important cause of the decline in U.S. manufacturing employment since 2000, but that decline began much earlier. And even our trade deficits are mainly a result of factors other than trade policy, like a strong dollar buoyed by global capital looking for a safe haven.

If we look at real median family income, we see it rising sharply during Clinton's Administration and falling thereafter.
Slave apologists existed throughout history.



Note, who did the best, the top 5% and Clinton, not necessarily in that order.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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First, we have gotten to where we are, namely, a largely free-trade world, through a generations-long process of international diplomacy, going all the way back to FDR. This process combines a series of quid pro quos, I'll open my markets if you open yours, with rules to prevent backsliding.

Second, protectionists almost always exaggerate the adverse effects of trade liberalization. Globalization is only one of several factors behind rising income inequality, and trade agreements are, in turn, only one factor in globalization. Trade deficits have been an important cause of the decline in U.S. manufacturing employment since 2000, but that decline began much earlier. And even our trade deficits are mainly a result of factors other than trade policy, like a strong dollar buoyed by global capital looking for a safe haven.

If we look at real median family income, we see it rising sharply during Clinton's Administration and falling thereafter.
A huge portion of the income run up was related to the internet bubble that later burst...Clinton should neither get credit for the run up or the fall out from that. It was a unique business situation that only happens once in the span of multiple generations, nothing much at all to do with who was in office at the time.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Buffalo/Utica NY
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Nothing that should allow her to beat Bernie.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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My, oh, my, oh, my. Look what the Clintons did with a big assist from their politico cronies:

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