Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It seems as though there are large numbers of voters (both democrat and republican) who dislike thier likely party candidate, as well as hate thier opposite party opponant.
One would think that this would be a recipe for a low voter turnout. If so, who does that favor and why? I have no idea, as I could see (under certain circumstances) either Hillary or Trump winning the election.
If Trump doesn't get the GOP nomination, I will not vote for any GOP candidates or Democratic choices. Time to start reigning in both parties. I voted a 3rd party in the last two elections. I am hoping that Trump runs 3rd party if not the GOP nominee. If he does, I will definitely be putting forth all the effort I can to get him elected.
It could turn out that Trump goes third party if the RNC plays dirty tricks.. And the same with Sanders..this would be one heck of a year if that happened.. Trump or Sanders could win ..one never knows..
It could turn out that Trump goes third party if the RNC plays dirty tricks.. And the same with Sanders..this would be one heck of a year if that happened.. Trump or Sanders could win ..one never knows..
Right.
If only one of them runs as an Independent, then the other side wins,
BUT if both of them run, there's a decent chance one of the two Independents could actually win.
Republicans/Conservatives are well Conditioned to VOTE a Litmus Test based on "True Conservative" Pundits.
IF their Dream Perfect TRUE Conservative (Ted Cruz) - is not the candidate, they will stay home (just as they did in 2008 & 2012).
The main BASE for Democrats is the "victim" class - Blacks & the poor Survivors of the "War on Women".
IF the Anointed HISTORIC First Woman (Hillary Clinton) is not the candidate -- they will stay home.
The "FED-UP" and want Real Change Crowd (Sanders & Trump), will stay home if their candidate is not chosen by the Party - the one thing we are all learning with this election is that the VOTERS don't count. The "Party" Counts and the way they choose to "count" could possibly throw out the Citizen vote. They are just fine with that. Has anyone noticed that the "election battle" is not between Left & Right/Democrat and Republican - the battle is between the Political Elite (mainly those in office + Media) and the VOTERS who are Fed-Up enough to turn to a non-Politician Business Mogul and a Socialist.
Who benefits most?
1) Hillary Clinton, just exactly the way that Obama did.
2) The Corporate Media - they get the Candidate they want and the Bonus of a Bloody battle to destroy the GOP
3) The Political Elite (Establishment types, including Party officials, Lobbyists, Lawyers & those currently in Office).
4) FOLLOW THE MONEY! ........ Election records are showing who is financing (buying) this "election".
The last thing in the World any of them want is for some "real change" to hit town. It would be kicking sand in their private, spendy Sandbox.
Sanders has said multiple times that he wouldn't run independent if he does not get the DNC nomination. I believe him, because . . . . he's Bernie.
Mr. Trump . . . . well, he has disavowed his pledge to RNC.
Ultimately, I believe there won't be any independent run (unless it is a GOP establishment candidate running solely to take electoral votes from Mr. Trump).
I am kind of with you on that. I will vote for senate and congressional elections, but will just leave the presidential selection blank or write in.
I wonder how many people in either party are thinking along the same lines? One would think this would lead to a low voter turnout.
Why would you vote for Republicans for senate and House?
They've shown you they are THE SAME as the Dems.
They threw the 2012 election so Obama could flood the country with low wage labor and he would take the blame for it. They support money printing and Obamacare.
The only way to change anything is to crash the Republican establishment permanently. Donors won't donate if they win no elections.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.