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Old 09-11-2016, 02:12 PM
 
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non-profits are forbidden by law from contributing to political causes. that's more than simply a "filing mistake". the fact that the trump foundation reported the $25,000 to the IRS as going to a different charity might have been considered a filing mistake but not the original illegal action.

it also ignores the bigger question on whether this was a bribe to get bondi not to investigate the complaints filed against "trump U".
Bondi gets $25K from Trump's Foundation. She drops the investigation. Trump holds a fundraiser at his estate.

https://boingboing.net/2016/09/09/it...ribed-the.html

Trump is on record saying “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/07/donald-trump-buy/

Not much mystery here, folks.
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Old 09-11-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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Those are not credible journalistic sources.

Pants are STILL on fire.
The disclosure statements are made by the CLINTON Foundation THEMSELVES.. BY LAW.
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Old 09-11-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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This lie has been repeated and refuted numerous times on this forum.

Charity Watch gave the Clinton Foundation an A grade, while GuideStar gave it a platinum rating.

"Daniel Borochoff of Charity Watch noted that in 2014, 87.2% of the foundation's funding went to its programs, "which is really high." The foundation, he said, does "really important, valuable work that saves lives of lots of people."

"It's unfortunate that it's become this punching bag, this political punching bag," Borochoff said. "There's a lot of things that are said that are false. If Hillary Clinton wasn't running for president, the Clinton Foundation would be seen as one of the great humanitarian charities of our generation."

What is the Clinton Foundation and why is it controversial? - CNNPolitics.com
Wrong.. The 87.2% total includes things like AIR FARE and SALARIES.. Which are NOT charitable givings.

btw, note how the year changed from 2013, to 2014.. Thats very dishonest.. Almost as much as including salaries claiming its a charitable giving
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:22 PM
 
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The IRS gave a $2500 fine, so it was nothing more than a simple filing mistake.
the fine was for the illegal activity of a non-profit contributing to a political cause. the "simple filing mistake" of the trump foundation claiming that the $25,000 went to a completely different charity in KS ( whom has never received any money from the trump foundation ) has yet to be addressed.

....and lets not forget bondi.

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take it to the appropriate thread. i'm not a clinton supporter and have no desire to defend her. to keep bringing it up here is just desperately trying to deflect away from the crud that trump is in.
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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Wrong.. The 87.2% total includes things like AIR FARE and SALARIES.. Which are NOT charitable givings.

btw, note how the year changed from 2013, to 2014.. Thats very dishonest.. Almost as much as including salaries claiming its a charitable giving
This is not true.

Many charities pass on money to other organizations. The Clinton Foundation does a lot of the actual work itself. It also matches up projects with donors. Apparently, this has led to RW confusion.

Several reputable charity watchdogs have done extensive research into the Clinton Foundation and given it an excellent rating.

No matter how often one repeats lies, it doesn't make them true.

The situation with the Trump Foundation "charitable donation" to Bondi's election is another matter. Will have to see how it enfolds, but at the moment appears to be a bribe to get her drop the investigation into Trump U.
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:47 PM
 
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This is not true.

Many charities pass on money to other organizations. The Clinton Foundation does a lot of the actual work itself. It also matches up projects with donors. Apparently, this has led to RW confusion.

Several reputable charity watchdogs have done extensive research into the Clinton Foundation and given it an excellent rating.

No matter how often one repeats lies, it doesn't make them true.

The situation with the Trump Foundation "charitable donation" to Bondi's election is another matter. Will have to see how it enfolds, but at the moment appears to be a bribe to get her drop the investigation into Trump U.
Your just flat out wrong.. The FACTS.. are as follows, from the Clinton Foundations OWN DISCLOSURES..

From 2009-2012, they raised slightly over $500 million, but only spent $75 million on "programmatic grants"..
The other went to
$25 million went for travel expenses
almost $110 million for employee salaries and benefits
and $290 million for 'other expenses,'"

That means ONLY 15% went to charitable expenses..

oh wait, theres more..

In 2013, they raised $140 million, but their disclosure documents show
spent $30 million on payroll and employee benefits
$8.7 million in rent and office expenses
$9.2 million on “conferences, conventions and meetingsâ€
$8 million on fundraising; and nearly $8.5 million on travel

ONLY $9 million went to charity, the other $64 million, were actual pledges, and not cash on hand.

You running around claiming the foundation is fantastic, holds absolutely ZERO relevance when reality shows a completely different story.
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Old 09-11-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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Your just flat out wrong.. The FACTS.. are as follows, from the Clinton Foundations OWN DISCLOSURES..

From 2009-2012, they raised slightly over $500 million, but only spent $75 million on "programmatic grants"..
The other went to
$25 million went for travel expenses
almost $110 million for employee salaries and benefits
and $290 million for 'other expenses,'"

That means ONLY 15% went to charitable expenses..

oh wait, theres more..

In 2013, they raised $140 million, but their disclosure documents show
spent $30 million on payroll and employee benefits
$8.7 million in rent and office expenses
$9.2 million on “conferences, conventions and meetings”
$8 million on fundraising; and nearly $8.5 million on travel

ONLY $9 million went to charity, the other $64 million, were actual pledges, and not cash on hand.

You running around claiming the foundation is fantastic, holds absolutely ZERO relevance when reality shows a completely different story.
First of all, please link to your source(s).

Second, if employees are doing the charitable work, it makes sense they would have salaries, benefits, travel, meeting... expenses,

Third, it may be that they may take in money in one year and spend it in another. Often, programs that depend on donations for funding don't start up until the funding has been secured.

Guide Star, Charity Navigator, and Charity Watch are well regarded organizations that have looked into their finances and programs over the years and given the Clinton Foundation positive ratings. The Clinton Foundation spends less than 15% on administrative and fundraising expenses.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ry&orgid=16680

You may want to do a bit more research before you post any further misinformation.

In any case, this thread is about Trump Foundation funds being used to bribe the Florida Attorney General to drop the investigation into Trump University.
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Trump won't be affected by this scandal because he is the celebrity candidate here but I hope bimbo Bondi loses her position. I will be fine with that idiot going away.
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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First of all, please link to your source(s).

Second, if employees are doing the charitable work, it makes sense they would have salaries, benefits, travel, meeting... expenses,

Third, it may be that they may take in money in one year and spend it in another. Often, programs that depend on donations for funding don't start up until the funding has been secured.

Guide Star, Charity Navigator, and Charity Watch are well regarded organizations that have looked into their finances and programs over the years and given the Clinton Foundation positive ratings. The Clinton Foundation spends less than 15% on administrative and fundraising expenses.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ry&orgid=16680

You may want to do a bit more research before you post any further misinformation.

In any case, this thread is about Trump Foundation funds being used to bribe the Florida Attorney General to drop the investigation into Trump University.
The issue isnt if people should be paid, the issue is whether or not paying a salary to someone is calculated as a charitable activity.

IT IS NOT.. and NEVER has been.

Charity watchdog: Clinton Foundation a ‘slush fund’ | New York Post
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:12 AM
 
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Trump won't be affected by this scandal because he is the celebrity candidate here but I hope bimbo Bondi loses her position. I will be fine with that idiot going away.
I found a great article to share with you.

Theme: Why does the appearance of possible impropriety bother voters so much more than apparent actually criminal crimes?

Answer: "The reason the Clinton Foundation has earned more scrutiny is that the Clinton Foundation, like Hillary Clinton herself, ostensibly stands for something greater. The best version of Donald Trump is someone who nevertheless does everything to advance the greater glory of Donald Trump."

It isn't news to find out more why Trump's actual indiscretions don't rate as news.

Cite: Why Clinton
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