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Old 08-05-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Why don't you just admit you're a Muslim sympathizer who is totally ignorant about Islam and their strategy called "civilization jihad" of which Mr. Khirz Khan is every bit a part of, and at the present, during Hillary's coronation, hiding behind the fact that he is a "Gold Star Family?" Mrs. Clinton has used him, knowing full well who he is. His lying is called "taqiyya" in Islam. That is, lying to non-believers (non-Muslims) for the 'faith.' Look it up.

As for Frank Gaffney, he is highly respected and extremely knowledgeable on Islam. Another source you may want to check out is Robert Spencer.

What you lack is even a basic knowledge of Islam, and their view of themselves as the only true believers. They are killing for "Allah," which they believe will earn them a place in "paradise." Sharia, they believe, is above all other law, even (for those living in the US) above our Constitution. These people represent grave danger for the United States and our way of life, and should not be so easily dismissed by the uninformed, like yourself.

Get informed. Learn, before you speak about something you know nothing about.
It would be nice if all posters did this (what I highlighted) and if they didn't get their so-called information from conspiracy sites.

 
Old 08-05-2016, 11:47 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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You obviously did not read what I wrote here around 4:30 about the material found at your 2 links which were presented here earlier by someone else.
Go take a careful look please.
And as per the thread topic, could not someone of a viewpoint opposite to yours say the very same thing about Patricia Smith that you just said about Khizr Khan?
You're uninformed. Muslims do believe that Sharia trumps the Constitution. And those two links are valid links. Sorry. You lose.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 11:49 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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link?
Are you incapable of doing research?

You might want to read this: Khizr Khan Believes Sharia Trumps the Constitution

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Old 08-05-2016, 12:39 PM
 
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You need to read carefully from your own post.

KHIZR KHAN: Sharia law cannot be implemented in this United States, because this distorted Sharia law is against the basic principle of equal dignity, equal protection of law in the United States.

He calls Sharia law distorted and against the basic principal of equal dignity and equal protection. If you can read that as his wanting Sharia law imposed in the US, then you have a great future awaiting you as a contortionist in a circus.
Again, his opinion is that basically Sharia law can't be implemented because it is against the current law. Note, he says nothing about how the system should work. Just how it is.


So let's put it in a different way. If someone asked me if 50 percent of my friends were racist and I replied "Racism can't exist because it is against the law" that does not mean that 50 percent of my friends aren't racist and that I am not a racist.


Get the difference?


He also does not call Sharia Law distorted. He seems to indicate some interpretations are distorted but does nothing to further explain what would be a distorted Sharia Law vs. one that is not. And then he seems to be confused about what Sharia we are talking about then says there is no such thing? And then blames the Brits?


Frankly, I have no idea if Mr. Kahn would like to see Sharia Law imposed (if the laws were changed to allow it he may). On the other hand, he may not. I'm just saying that if you read his words carefully he is not coming out guns a blazing against Sharia Law. That is for sure. That fact combined with PRIOR writings and personal profiting off immigration from Muslim countries just make him a bad example for DNC to throw up there.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Again, his opinion is that basically Sharia law can't be implemented because it is against the current law. Note, he says nothing about how the system should work. Just how it is.


So let's put it in a different way. If someone asked me if 50 percent of my friends were racist and I replied "Racism can't exist because it is against the law" that does not mean that 50 percent of my friends aren't racist and that I am not a racist.


Get the difference?


He also does not call Sharia Law distorted. He seems to indicate some interpretations are distorted but does nothing to further explain what would be a distorted Sharia Law vs. one that is not. And then he seems to be confused about what Sharia we are talking about then says there is no such thing? And then blames the Brits?


Frankly, I have no idea if Mr. Kahn would like to see Sharia Law imposed (if the laws were changed to allow it he may). On the other hand, he may not. I'm just saying that if you read his words carefully he is not coming out guns a blazing against Sharia Law. That is for sure. That fact combined with PRIOR writings and personal profiting off immigration from Muslim countries just make him a bad example for DNC to throw up there.
Yes, I frequently describe things I'm in favor of as "against the basic principle of equal dignity, equal protection of law in the United States."



He's not describing it in a positive way, nor calling for its implementation.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 02:26 PM
 
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Yes, I frequently describe things I'm in favor of as "against the basic principle of equal dignity, equal protection of law in the United States."



He's not describing it in a positive way, nor calling for its implementation.
Why didn't he just come out and say I believe women and gays are equal to men and most Muslims I know feel the same way. (Remember the question was about a poll and US Muslim opinions) Instead, his answer was full of obfuscation. It isn't responsible to cherry pick one part of the response to reach a conclusion.

Maybe the issue is that English is his second language so he didn't know how to express himself clearly to the US public. I don't know. I just know I was disappointed in his response. There seems to be a general lack of US Muslims stating publicly and clearly that they are against radical Islam and Sharia Law. Mr. Kahn seemed to state that there is no such thing as Sharia Law which supports violence against women? I mean really?


Maybe I have been watching too much Bill Maher....
 
Old 08-05-2016, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I doubt Khan was criticizing his son going to war, although most likely he was at odds with it, his criticism of Trump was because he and his son as muslims fought, died and paid the ultimate sacrifice for this great country.
But Trumps rethoric is very negative and divisive towards muslims and I suppose Mr. Khan took umbrage and from his perspective who can blame him.......?
I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand for so many.
So which is worse, going into a pointless war that cost your son his life or taking a stance to stop bringing in immigrants that are out to destroy our nation but whom you profit from (Khan is an immigration attorney)?

I question Khan's motive in both cases, if it were me, I would be pissed if Hillary sent my son to his death in a pointless war and even if Trump was taking a stance that would hurt me economically, I wouldn't be as pissed at him....how is that not possible for non-logical Liberals emotionals to understand.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 10:31 PM
 
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From a US veteran to Mr. Khan, your son sacrificed his life for his country and is a hero. You however, sold your dark soul to a lady who voted to send your son to his death and you are trying (and no doubt will) to profit from your son's death....shameful.
If you are a vet then you know darn well that Bush was the dark soul. He was president and made the decision, not Hillary.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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If you are a vet then you know darn well that Bush was the dark soul. He was president and made the decision, not Hillary.
They both made a horrible mistake, I won't vote for anyone that supported that stupidity. Trump didn't and had no part in the death of Mr Khan's son (unlike Hillary).
 
Old 08-05-2016, 10:42 PM
 
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They both made a horrible mistake, I won't vote for anyone that supported that stupidity. Trump didn't and had no part in the death of Mr Khan's son (unlike Hillary).
Hillary is not to blame. Everyone was fed with false info thus voting for the war.
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