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Old 08-01-2016, 08:27 PM
 
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Read the article.
There are two paragraphs with regards to the Constitution.

There is no methods that he details with regards to breaking the Constitution. Just vague promises - which all candidates do.

Obama is breaking the law which he swore to upheld in His directives to ICE and the border patrol. So we are not in unchartered waters here even if Trump transgresses the laws as president. If you support Obama's unlawful directives, my fingers are in my ears on your Trump complaints about following the laws.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Foothills of Maryland Blue Ridge mountains
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washington post - no need to read it... hit piece by the hillary machine.
Well then, read this from the Wall Street Journal editorial page:

Of all of Donald Trump’s vile irruptions—about Sen. John McCain’s military record, or reporter Serge Kovaleski’s physical handicap, or Judge Gonzalo Curiel’s judicial fitness—his casual smear of Ghazala Khan is perhaps the vilest.

This isn’t simply because Mrs. Khan is a bereaved mother. Bereavement alone does not place someone above criticism, especially when it comes to political differences. Nor is it because Mrs. Khan’s son, U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan, died heroically to protect his troops in Iraq. The special deference given to Gold Star parents is, at bottom, a social convention.

No: What makes Mr. Trump’s remarks so foul is their undisguised sadism. He took a woman too heartbroken and anxious to speak of her dead son before an audience of millions and painted a target on her. He treated her silence as evidence that she was either a dolt or a stooge. He degraded her. “She was standing there. She had nothing to say,” Mr. Trump told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. “She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.”

In this comment there was the full unmasking of Mr. Trump, in case he needed further unmasking. He has, as Humayun’s father Khizr put it, a “black soul.” His problem isn’t a lack of normal propriety but the absence of basic human decency. He is morally unfit for any office, high or low.

This is the point that needs to dawn—and dawn soon—on Republican officeholders who pretend to endorse Mr. Trump while also pretending, via wink-and-nod, that they do not. Paul Ryan has tried to walk this razor’s edge by stressing how much he disagrees with Mr. Trump’s “ideas.” On Sunday the speaker issued a flabby statement extolling the Khan family’s sacrifice and denouncing religious tests for immigrants without mentioning Mr. Trump by name.

Mr. Ryan is doing his personal reputation and his party’s fortunes no favors with these evasions. The central issue in this election isn’t Mr. Trump’s ideas, such as they are. It’s his character, such as it is. The sin, in this case, is the sinner.

It will not do for Republicans to say they denounce Mr. Trump’s personal slanders; his nativism and protectionism and isolationism; his mendacity and meanness and crassness; his disdain for constitutional protections—and still campaign for his election. There is no redemption in saying you went along with it, but only halfway; that with Mr. Trump you maintained technical virginity. To lie down with him is to wake up with him. It’s as simple as that.

That’s a thought that ought to frighten Republicans. The Khan slander was not Mr. Trump’s first and will not be his last or worst. As one wag on Twitter put it, the man always finds a new bottom. Nor are we likely done with new disclosures about Mr. Trump’s business practices and associations. Conservative die-hards may try to hold fast to the excuse that Hillary Clinton was, is, and always will be “worse,” but the argument can’t be sustained indefinitely. Mrs. Clinton is not the apotheosis of evil. She may be a corner-cutter and a liar, and she’ll almost surely appoint liberals to the Supreme Court. But at least she’s not a sociopath.

Politics is mostly the business of maintaining popularity in the here-and-now. Not always. Come January, Mrs. Clinton will likely be president. Whether there is a GOP that can still lay a claim to moral and political respectability is another question. Mr. Ryan and other Go-Along Republicans should treat the Khan episode as their last best hope to preserve political reputations they have worked so hard to build.

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Old 08-01-2016, 08:42 PM
 
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Great Op-Ed here folks, right on the money.



Washington Post
If Trump is a unique threat, then Hillarious is surely not. As prt of the liberal establishment, she isn't unique as a threat to American Democracy, she represents an entire movement bent on it's destruction.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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Trump is one person

So, what is he going to do about the Corporate and Banking Lobbyists shoveling boat loads of money to the hundreds of politicians to the left and right of him?

I'll tell you what he is going to do
Absolutely nothing and it will be business as usual in DC
I think he will do all he can, and geometrically more than Hillary would.

Hillary and Bill and their charitable foundation (money-laundering operation) pimped the Sec. of State Office for about $20M. How much more would the prostitute the USA for as POTUS?

Trump wouldn't do that in a million years.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:57 PM
 
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If Trump is a unique threat, then Hillarious is surely not. As prt of the liberal establishment, she isn't unique as a threat to American Democracy, she represents an entire movement bent on it's destruction.
Besides that, look at her prostituting America via her money laundering foudation, her treachery as the Bungler of Benghazi-Gate, and the fact that her 20-year personal aid Huma Abedien, is tied at the hip to the Muslim Brotherhood, that she flunked the DC Bar, worked alongside the Black Panthers, got kicked off of the Watergate Committee for STEALING evidence for the defense. Its a litany of corruption and incompetence, and it is hard to tell which is worse. You might as well put Al Capone in the White House. They are so corrupt they looted the White House when they left,and the Sec. Service had to retrieve $200,000 or more of furniture and furnishing. What kind of fool would vote for a POS like her?
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:02 PM
 
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I love it, Hillary steals the nomination, and Trump is the threat to democracy.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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Well then, read this from the Wall Street Journal editorial page:

Of all of Donald Trump’s vile irruptions—about Sen. John McCain’s military record, or reporter Serge Kovaleski’s physical handicap, or Judge Gonzalo Curiel’s judicial fitness—his casual smear of Ghazala Khan is perhaps the vilest.

This isn’t simply because Mrs. Khan is a bereaved mother. Bereavement alone does not place someone above criticism, especially when it comes to political differences. Nor is it because Mrs. Khan’s son, U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan, died heroically to protect his troops in Iraq. The special deference given to Gold Star parents is, at bottom, a social convention.

No: What makes Mr. Trump’s remarks so foul is their undisguised sadism. He took a woman too heartbroken and anxious to speak of her dead son before an audience of millions and painted a target on her. He treated her silence as evidence that she was either a dolt or a stooge. He degraded her. “She was standing there. She had nothing to say,” Mr. Trump told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. “She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.”

In this comment there was the full unmasking of Mr. Trump, in case he needed further unmasking. He has, as Humayun’s father Khizr put it, a “black soul.” His problem isn’t a lack of normal propriety but the absence of basic human decency. He is morally unfit for any office, high or low.

This is the point that needs to dawn—and dawn soon—on Republican officeholders who pretend to endorse Mr. Trump while also pretending, via wink-and-nod, that they do not. Paul Ryan has tried to walk this razor’s edge by stressing how much he disagrees with Mr. Trump’s “ideas.” On Sunday the speaker issued a flabby statement extolling the Khan family’s sacrifice and denouncing religious tests for immigrants without mentioning Mr. Trump by name.

Mr. Ryan is doing his personal reputation and his party’s fortunes no favors with these evasions. The central issue in this election isn’t Mr. Trump’s ideas, such as they are. It’s his character, such as it is. The sin, in this case, is the sinner.

It will not do for Republicans to say they denounce Mr. Trump’s personal slanders; his nativism and protectionism and isolationism; his mendacity and meanness and crassness; his disdain for constitutional protections—and still campaign for his election. There is no redemption in saying you went along with it, but only halfway; that with Mr. Trump you maintained technical virginity. To lie down with him is to wake up with him. It’s as simple as that.

That’s a thought that ought to frighten Republicans. The Khan slander was not Mr. Trump’s first and will not be his last or worst. As one wag on Twitter put it, the man always finds a new bottom. Nor are we likely done with new disclosures about Mr. Trump’s business practices and associations. Conservative die-hards may try to hold fast to the excuse that Hillary Clinton was, is, and always will be “worse,” but the argument can’t be sustained indefinitely. Mrs. Clinton is not the apotheosis of evil. She may be a corner-cutter and a liar, and she’ll almost surely appoint liberals to the Supreme Court. But at least she’s not a sociopath.

Politics is mostly the business of maintaining popularity in the here-and-now. Not always. Come January, Mrs. Clinton will likely be president. Whether there is a GOP that can still lay a claim to moral and political respectability is another question. Mr. Ryan and other Go-Along Republicans should treat the Khan episode as their last best hope to preserve political reputations they have worked so hard to build.
Given all that, and I am sure there i a significant amount of truth in what you say, he isn't 10% as bad, as evil, as manipulative, as disingenuous, as dishonest, as disgusting, as politically, ethically, and personally malodorous as Hillary. Not 10%!
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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If Trump is a unique threat, then Hillarious is surely not. As prt of the liberal establishment, she isn't unique as a threat to American Democracy, she represents an entire movement bent on it's destruction.
Except, well, like almost all rightwing hysteria and hyperbole, it has nothing in common with reality.

And the reality is, Trump represents half of America: Dangerously ignorant and reckless, little or no empathy, understanding of or regard for anyone who is not a white conservative male, and willing to run an entire country into the ground in order to keep the opposition from winning.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:55 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Great Op-Ed here folks, right on the money.



Washington Post
Surely they aren't advocating for Hillary Clinton if they are concerned about democracy.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:58 PM
 
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I can't believe you just wrote that.
Are you afraid we will know something we shouldn't?


Bet you are fine with Buffett with all his billions demanding Trump's tax report......The problem Buffett and Clintons have an account they report and a foundation know as donations, let us see the donations and where the money trail is.


Two way street and you seem to be okay with the Clintons hiding stuff, or are you supporting hidden secrets in the form of a Foundation?
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