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Old 08-04-2016, 10:12 AM
 
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LOL. Yeah; they LOVE dropping in the polls! Believe me! It's incredible!
I'm imaging that in the Tim Kaine voice.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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The polls defy logic.

Hillary has millions of Bernie supporters, and Independents saying they will never vote for her after the DNC rigging of the primaries was revealed. Heck, Bernie was booed at the DNC when he mentioned Hillary's name. The DNC was a complete disaster, all evidence points to Hillary sinking like a rock.

There is no way Hillary is surging in the polls.

Nobody with any critical thinking skills would put any faith in the polls right now.
Translation: Polls are only trustworthy when my candidate is leading.


All evidence shows someone sinking like a rock anyway.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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Just like the Hillary supporters - the PUMAs, remember them? - kept Obama from being elected in 2008. How'd that work out for you?
Clintons problem is going to get people out to vote for her. Did you know by time she spoke at the DNC, many of the delegates walked out ?
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Well, if you trust the polls so much, Hillary's unfavorability ratings just dropped, and are as bad as Trump's. Her trustworthiness ratings have been by far the worst of all the candidates.

Again, the evidence all points to Hillary sinking, it's illogical to think she is surging in the polls.





The numbers of Bernie supporters backing Hillary has been all over the place, there is no true reading on how many Bernie supporters are backing Hillary.

The RNC was uneventful, and the never Trump movement, never was at the convention.

The DNC on the other hand started with irrefutable proof of the DNC rigging the primaries in favor of Hillary, and the head of the DNC being forced to resign.

A number of speakers were booed at the DNC, including Bernie when he mentioned Hillary's name.

There were constant protests in the streets, and a massive condemnation of Hillary, and the DNC by Democrats.

Sorry, but the DNC was a full on disaster.
The number of Bernie supporters has been consistent. Based on a two way race she gets around 90 percent of them and based on a 4 way race in the 60's. The eventual share will likely be somewhere in between. And if we go by historical averages it will be closer to the upper end. The thing is almost all of the remaining undecideds are his supporters. Just let that one sink in for a minute.

One of the reasons people underestimated Donald is because they didn't trust the polls. What you are doing is assuming that everyone saw things though your eyes and assumes that they think like you. All evidence shows is that out of the two unlikable candidates so far people like one of them more. As of now that person isn't Donald Trump. That might change as time goes on but if he keeps on his current trajectory he is going to get crushed.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Anyone who follows presidential elections KNOWS candidates get a "bump" after their convention.

Trump got a bump after the repup convention and hillary went down.

If 1 candidate goes up, like hillary, the other candidate goes down some.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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Anyone who follows presidential elections KNOWS candidates get a "bump" after their convention.

Trump got a bump after the repup convention and hillary went down.

If 1 candidate goes up, like hillary, the other candidate goes down some.
Ordinarily that would be true but there are some signs that her bump could persist. It's also a lot larger than his and persisted longer. His was over by that Sunday and hers is still strong almost a week later. It might simply be a bump but I guess the news is dragging Trump down as well.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Anyone who follows presidential elections KNOWS candidates get a "bump" after their convention.

Trump got a bump after the repup convention and hillary went down.

If 1 candidate goes up, like hillary, the other candidate goes down some.
Trump got a one day blip not a week long bounce like Hillary. Much of Trump's drop is due to his ongoing gaffes - the Trump camp expected Trump to self implode?
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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And this is whats wrong with america. You'd rather elect a sleazy, lying, national sell out, long as "your side wins".
This post could be about either candidate....
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Old 08-05-2016, 05:49 AM
 
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Ordinarily that would be true but there are some signs that her bump could persist. It's also a lot larger than his and persisted longer. His was over by that Sunday and hers is still strong almost a week later. It might simply be a bump but I guess the news is dragging Trump down as well.
Come back in 2 weeks.
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:25 AM
 
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This is the same guy who thinks elections don't even start until September. That might of been the case 40 years ago but that's no longer the case now. State parties had a much better apparatus due to the remnants of the party boss system as well.
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