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Old 09-16-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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We know he doesn't mean it, and believes Obama was probably not born in the US.

He just doesn't want to hurt the feelings of the casual voter and blacks who
were offended by the birther movement.

It's sad when the President can throw up an Adobe photoshopped non-birth certificate
and also fake the bin Laden asassination, there is no real evidence on either of these,
Americans have no independent press except for the alternative websites.
What do want? Tears on the Dr. Phil Show??? Clinton and here team Bloominthou create the issue and the narrative in the first place!


Its OK Obama got Docs. He gets over again!

 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:13 PM
 
Location: FL
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Show me where she acknowledged that at the time, otherwise she prolonged the rumor for her own benefit.
Get off your high horse. It took Trump years to figure out what most people know from the start. Some of you never figured out that Hawaii was part of the US.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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Trump concluded the issue in 2012?

He continued to tweet about it in 2014.

Trump Kept 'Birther' Beliefs Going Long After Obama's Birth Certificate Was Released - NBC News

Since he announced his candidacy for the primary, the media has asked if he continued to believe Obama was not born in the US. He could have cleared the air. Instead, he punted.
Oh well, both candidates are sh*ts. We all know that. Trump can never admit to being wrong or apologize for anything. It's a flaw of some people, and I've known a few myself. They are usually far more successful than me, so maybe it comes off as confidence and my humbleness comes off as meekness (or that's the impression I got from people telling women to stop apologizing so much because it hurts them in business). I imagine his comes from being a businessman in the roughest city for business in the world - New York City.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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Should the leader never be held responsible for what their underlings do in their name? At least they should to the point where they admit the underlings went too far and were appropriately dealt with. Not 8 years later, either.
From your link:
Doyle: Yeah, Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was so, beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run.
Doyle went on to relate how she personally called Obama campaign manager David Plouffe to apologize, and he accepted. Blitzer then asked her about the Mark Penn memorandum, in which the campaign’s strategist proposed exploiting Obama’s “lack of American roots.” Doyle asserted, and Blitzer agreed, that the memo had nothing to do with Birtherism.


I do hope you can figure out what this means.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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Doyle: Yeah, Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was so, beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run.
The problem with constantly lying is people no longer believe anything they say. And the problem with the way the media favors one party over another is that they no longer have any credibility. It especially looks bad when the DNC emails leaked by Wikileaks showed that they had journalists run their stories through the DNC before they even sent it to their editors.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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Plz delete...Won't link off phone
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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Interesting...

According to a Fact check article from last year the blame of the birther rumor came from Hillary's basket of despicables

"The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama."

Was Hillary Clinton the Original ‘Birther’?
Two Republican presidential candidates claim the so-called “birther” movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. While it’s true that some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, there is no evidence that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it.




One of the authors of the Politico story, Byron Tau, now a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, told FactCheck.org via email that “we never found any links between the Clinton campaign and the rumors in 2008.”
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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from the article:

"While it’s true that no one on Clinton’s 2008 campaign pushed birtherism (there were nasty rumors going around about Obama), Asher claims that longtime Clinton ally Sidney Blumenthal told him about it and asked him to look into it:"
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:24 PM
 
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Y'know... by tomorrow all the trumpists will be saying they never believed the birther thing anyways. After all, their deity cam eon the teevee and said that obama is a US citizen, so that whole thing must never have happened. Too bad there is video, tweets, gawd knows what else, of him going all full-blown birther in the past. But, no, by tomorrow, it will all be a leftist conspiracy to discredit trump. He never said it, he never sent those people to Hawaii, and we can all stop holding our breath waiting to hear what they found. <scoff>
 
Old 09-16-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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Two Republican presidential candidates claim the so-called “birther” movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. While it’s true that some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, there is no evidence that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it.




One of the authors of the Politico story, Byron Tau, now a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, told FactCheck.org via email that “we never found any links between the Clinton campaign and the rumors in 2008.”

The head of Hillary's campaign admitted that they started the birther movement.
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