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Old 09-25-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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According to the very Clinton Friendly CNN, Bill Clinton's wife has given up on Ohio.

This is very bad for Clinton. Last time a Democrat won without this state was 66 years ago.

So long Ohio? - CNN Video
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Old 09-25-2016, 03:56 PM
 
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YUGE! According to CNN, Hillary is Giving Up on Ohio

Everybody else has!
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Old 09-25-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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Hillary's internal polling must be really scary to them.
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Old 09-25-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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Hillary's internal polling must be really scary to them.

Wonder if the firm doing it for them is more competent than the firm they picked to run their secret email server?
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Old 09-25-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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weekend with Hillary

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vR2m...cy6A/giphy.gif

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Old 09-25-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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She hasn't given up. Wishful thinking doesn't make things true. She hasn't visited the state since Labor Day but that doesn't mean her campaign is not spending money or planning future trips there.

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Old 09-25-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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In trying to look at this in as unbiased a way as possible, I believe that there is some bad news for both Republicans and Democrats.

For Republicans, the bad news is that Clinton (or any Democrat, for that matter) can win without Ohio. For Democrats, the bad news is that I think that Ohio--along with Iowa--is undergoing a transformation from a purple state to a red state (similar to what happened with Missouri 15 to 20 years ago). The main reasons for this change are demographics: given that Ohio and Iowa have low numbers of Hispanics and high numbers of working-class whites, it makes sense for these states to turn red.

If I were advising Clinton, I would advise her to concede both Ohio and Iowa and spend resources elsewhere. If I were advising Trump, I would tell him that he should take neither state for granted but also tell him that he needs to do everything possible to undo Clinton's advantage in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire (which are the states most likely to determine who wins the election).
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Old 09-25-2016, 04:35 PM
 
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She hasn't given up.
CNN says otherwise.
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Old 09-25-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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Hillary's internal polling must be really scary to them.
Makes you wonder what their polling is telling them in other states. If it's worth sacrificing OH, there must be dire problems elsewhere.
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Old 09-25-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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CNN says otherwise.
CNN didn't say that. It was a statement made by some commentator and he didn't even say what you are claiming he said. Of course you as a Trump supporter have so little to hold on to, this gives you hope. After bashing CNN for months suddenly you find a second class CNN commentator credible
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