Trump Supporters Hate Liberalism? Define Liberalism (vice president, elections, governor, elect)

[Cape Cod Todd]

I don't hate Liberals and I certainly don't want them destroyed since many people I know identify with the Democratic Left.

What bugs me about liberals is their hypocrisy.
Take the poster girl for liberalism Elizabeth Warren for example.
She trashed Trump for once saying that he and his fellow investors made piles of money during the recession when they bought up foreclosed buildings. The only thing is if one was to do a bit of digging Warren also took advantage of someone else loss and she too bought up foreclosed homes for her family.

Of course Warrens biggest gaff is when she claimed to be partly Native American so she could fulfill an affirmative action position at Harvard. She checked the box as they say and no one checked up on her claim. She took a job that would have otherwise gone to a real minority yet she claims to champion minorities in the face of the evil Republicans that would crush them.

Another thing that drives me crazy about Liberals is that they think they know it all and if anyone has a thought that does not reflect theirs then they must be either narrow minded or stupid.


I think most Liberals are high thinkers and big talkers but when it comes to actual action their "theories" about how the country should be run are nothing more than dreams for them and nightmares for the rest of us.

I would have to say that many Liberals do have big hearts but they have small brains when it comes to reality but luckily for them we have people like Trump that tips the scale to a more balanced point.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd

I don't hate Liberals and I certainly don't want them destroyed since many people I know identify with the Democratic Left.

What bugs me about liberals is their hypocrisy.
Take the poster girl for liberalism Elizabeth Warren for example.
She trashed Trump for once saying that he and his fellow investors made piles of money during the recession when they bought up foreclosed buildings. The only thing is if one was to do a bit of digging Warren also took advantage of someone else loss and she too bought up foreclosed homes for her family.

Of course Warrens biggest gaff is when she claimed to be partly Native American so she could fulfill an affirmative action position at Harvard. She checked the box as they say and no one checked up on her claim. She took a job that would have otherwise gone to a real minority yet she claims to champion minorities in the face of the evil Republicans that would crush them.

Another thing that drives me crazy about Liberals is that they think they know it all and if anyone has a thought that does not reflect theirs then they must be either narrow minded or stupid.

I think most Liberals are high thinkers and big talkers but when it comes to actual action their "theories" about how the country should be run are nothing more than dreams for them and nightmares for the rest of us.

I would have to say that many Liberals do have big hearts but they have small brains when it comes to reality but luckily for them we have people like Trump that tips the scale to a more balanced point.

1. Please provide proof that Warren took a job from someone else.
2. Was Warren supposed to not buy a house for sale? She bought houses in a low market for members of her family. If Trump had done that, he would be heralded by his supporters as generous and loving toward his family.

I define liberal the same way John F. Kennedy did in Profiles in Courage:

“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

, it was Obama that set race relations back at least 60 years. Obama was as racist as George Wallace,.

Perhaps you could give some examples to strengthen your opinion.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd

I don't hate Liberals and I certainly don't want them destroyed since many people I know identify with the Democratic Left.

What bugs me about liberals is their hypocrisy.
Take the poster girl for liberalism Elizabeth Warren for example.
She trashed Trump for once saying that he and his fellow investors made piles of money during the recession when they bought up foreclosed buildings. The only thing is if one was to do a bit of digging Warren also took advantage of someone else loss and she too bought up foreclosed homes for her family.

I have no idea if Warren actually did that, but the flaw in your argument is context. Trump said " I hope the market crashes so I can buy new properties at a discount".

I see no evidence of Warren ever hoping for the same.

Of course Warrens biggest gaff is when she claimed to be partly Native American so she could fulfill an affirmative action position at Harvard. She checked the box as they say and no one checked up on her claim. She took a job that would have otherwise gone to a real minority yet she claims to champion minorities in the face of the evil Republicans that would crush them.

Neither of those claims is true, and yet you attack liberals in your very next line for doing something you are so clearly guilty of doing.

]I think most Liberals are high thinkers and big talkers but when it comes to actual action their "theories" about how the country should be run are nothing more than dreams for them and nightmares for the rest of us.

I would have to say that many Liberals do have big hearts but they have small brains when it comes to reality but luckily for them we have people like Trump that tips the scale to a more balanced point.

Give specifics to support your argument.

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd

I don't hate Liberals and I certainly don't want them destroyed since many people I know identify with the Democratic Left.

What bugs me about liberals is their hypocrisy.
Take the poster girl for liberalism Elizabeth Warren for example.
She trashed Trump for once saying that he and his fellow investors made piles of money during the recession when they bought up foreclosed buildings. The only thing is if one was to do a bit of digging Warren also took advantage of someone else loss and she too bought up foreclosed homes for her family.

Of course Warrens biggest gaff is when she claimed to be partly Native American so she could fulfill an affirmative action position at Harvard. She checked the box as they say and no one checked up on her claim. She took a job that would have otherwise gone to a real minority yet she claims to champion minorities in the face of the evil Republicans that would crush them.

Another thing that drives me crazy about Liberals is that they think they know it all and if anyone has a thought that does not reflect theirs then they must be either narrow minded or stupid.


I think most Liberals are high thinkers and big talkers but when it comes to actual action their "theories" about how the country should be run are nothing more than dreams for them and nightmares for the rest of us.

I would have to say that many Liberals do have big hearts but they have small brains when it comes to reality but luckily for them we have people like Trump that tips the scale to a more balanced point.

I wanna say "get a job at Wendy's" (just found out about morton Downey Jr). If he was still around, all millennials would be pooping their pants - and I say that as a millennial born in 1987!

[Boss1234]

Originally Posted by Tall Traveler

Do they hate gays?
No
Do they hate it when states pass legal use of marijuana?
No
Do they want to make abortion illegal in the U.S.?
Yes
Do they want to end public education?
No
Do they want to end environmental laws?
No
Do they want to close the EPA at the cost of our food and water?
No
Do they want to privatize Social Security?
No
Do they want to voucherize Medicare (Seniors only pay about a third of the benefits they receive, we taxpayers supplement them)
No
Do they want to make religion a requirement?
No
Do they want to make only one religion allowed?
No
Do they want to make minorities a lesser citizen?
No
Do they want to penalize immigrants?
Illegal immigrants need to be deported
Do they want to end welfare? (which tend to go more to red states, blue states contribute more federal dollars than they get back)
No but there should be a motivation to work over a motivation for wlfare
Do they wan to end food stamps? (which tend to go more to red states)
No

What is liberalism that Trump supporters want to DESTROY?

Liberalisation today is the denigration of Americans who hold traditional values of Christianity, American nationalism, and denigration of heterosexual white males.

So true, especially on The White Male part. If you think about it in technical terms, White Men are a minority.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by Boss1234

So true, especially on The White Male part. If you think about it in technical terms, White Men are a minority.

White men are in complete control of the country and have been for over 200 years. This idea that white men are being targeted started when Hillary ran for president following Obama winning the presidency. Immediately it's "the white man is being penalized!" because they were threatened by the very concept of someone that wasn't a white man running for president. There has never been a female president. There has been one black male president. White men would need to lose the presidency for the next 43 elections before they would have a reasonable argument.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

I have no idea if Warren actually did that, but the flaw in your argument is context. Trump said " I hope the market crashes so I can buy new properties at a discount".

Actually people who invest in stock for example think the same thing. They have money on the side ready to take advantage of a market dip. This money is called dry powder. Even if you invest at regular intervals for example with every paycheck or drips you hope the market dips. You obviously don't understand investing dsjj251

That's the difference between the rich and everyone else. The rich are prepared for opportunity.

[ohio_peasant]

Here's an attempt at stating some core principles of liberalism:

1. Individual rights are potentially assailed by all sorts of concentrations of power.... public or private. A strong, activist government can be a danger, but can also be useful as counterbalance to strong, activist private organizations - be they corporations, churches or whatever else. Thus, a strong government is not a desirable end in itself, and can actually be pernicious; but it is occasionally a means towards the higher end, of keeping the various power-centers at loggerheads.

2. Traditional documents and rubrics are limited and inelastic. No document is holy, no doctrine is unassailably correct. Everything can and should be subject to review and revision - including the US constitution. However wise our forefathers may have been, they’re still fallible. And even if their ideas were outstanding and blameless, times change, circumstances change, and even the best ideas become obsolete or even outright untenable.

3. There is indeed a fundamental right to privacy, and this right is more important than securing some public good, or public end.

4. Immigration and trade are fundamental to national growth and vibrancy. The country that erects the sturdiest walls, only immures itself the fastest, become retrograde and obsolete.

5. Whatever our religious persuasions happen to be, law and morality in the civic-realm must be rooted in experience, observation and systematic analysis - rather than on purportedly revealed truth.

6. Where a price can be placed on goods or services, free markets do an excellent job of determining proper prices, and delivering said goods and services. But not all goods or services have a monetary price. It is foolish to fit market-solutions to every scenario, just as it is foolish to interfere with markets, whenever the matter at hand is clearly one of buying and selling.

[animalcrazy]

Originally Posted by Cheesesteak Cravings

Bring back pork barrel spending.

Politicians are now being elected based on ideological purity, than their ability to get results for constituents.

Why not think bigger? Why parcel out chump change when a select few can control all of the money?

The supreme court ruled that money is speech. Therefore corporations can spend money in the form of super pacts. Does this not give the corporations (1%) even more power to influence elections?

Take a good look in our new tax bill and you will find hidden gems that the republicans won't talk about. One of them is for the is the oil and gas industry. "The legislation that slashed the corporate rate for all U.S. companies while preserving tax breaks specific to them and opening up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for drilling." There was a 9cent per barrel tax on crude oil that is designed to generate 500 million a year to be available to help clean up disasters like the Exxon Valdez in 1989. The oil and gas industry had a Happy New Year bonus as the republicans let that tax expire. And one more bonus. The 2010 rules designed to protect the off shore work force was rescinded as too burdensome to the industry.

So what we have is a conservative agenda vs a liberal agenda. The liberals want environmental protection and worker safety. The conservatives want it all for the 1%. Who's right? Will the economy flourish because of the much disputed trickle down economics? Will the pro environment tree hugger liberals be proven right or wrong with these legislations? We can speculate, chose sides, and hate each other for it, or we can find a happy medium.

I think we can all agree that we all have concerns that our government is moving farther away from we the people and is now run by a plutocracy. The question is what do we do about it? Argue about silly topics like yes Obama go votes because he was black, yes Clinton got votes because she was a woman, or do we start to discuss facts right in front of us that may or may not be detrimental to the survival of we the people?


(Sorry guys, I didn't mean to ignore you yesterday. It's a fun day for me and I rarely have time to post on Mondays.)