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Old 11-28-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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How many illegals have been caught voting and arrested for it?

Trump said millions of people voted illegally. Please tell me what you think about his tweet.

I sucked it up when Bush was elected. Didn't like him, but oh well. That continued until he dragged us into war with Iraq. Bush was a weak leader, in over his head, and he let Rove and Cheney tell him what to do.

If Pence were president, I'd suck it up. Don't much like his views on social issues, but he seems like a decent enough human being.

You're right that I don't have to read his tweets but the rest of the world is reading them and watching him lie and react like a child to the slightest provocation. He's about to be the president of the United States, not a celebrity on a reality TV show. I'm not going to suck it up while he makes an ass of himself and embarrasses our country.

In general, I hate a liar and as long as Trump keeps lying, I'll never give him a chance.

So, what do you think about that tweet?
Per my bolded: Did you even think before you wrote what you did? If you did think about it, you wouldn't have written any of it. Obama is an embarrassment to our country, yet that never bothered you.

You "hate" liars and won't give them a chance. Yet Obama is a liar---Two of his most egregious lies were: 1) He would have a very transparent administration; and 2) If you like your doctor and your insurance, you would be able to keep both. For so many people that turned out to be a bald faced lie---in many cases, a lie that left people without insurance or with exorbitant costs.

You voted for Hillary, correct? She has been proven to be a pathological liar.

As for Trump's tweet---For all we know he's right about the numbers of illegals who voted. Can you prove otherwise without a doubt?
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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lol..we all know he like to make stuff up and lie. Why should it be any different now that he's president elect? He will get called out on his bs for the next four years and it won't change who he is....a dishonest guy who says stupid stuff and loves the attention it gets him.
Sounds just like your idol, Obama.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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Per my bolded: Did you even think before you wrote what you did? If you did think about it, you wouldn't have written any of it. Obama is an embarrassment to our country, yet that never bothered you.

You "hate" liars and won't give them a chance. Yet Obama is a liar---Two of his most egregious lies were: 1) He would have a very transparent administration; and 2) If you like your doctor and your insurance, you would be able to keep both. For so many people that turned out to be a bald faced lie---in many cases, a lie that left people without insurance or with exorbitant costs.

You voted for Hillary, correct? She has been proven to be a pathological liar.

As for Trump's tweet---For all we know he's right about the numbers of illegals who voted. Can you prove otherwise without a doubt?
We're not talking about Obama or Hillary here.

Trump tweeted that millions of people voted illegally or he would have won the popular vote. The person asserting the fact has the burden of proving it's true.

You obviously know that Trump tweeted a bald-faced lie to the entire world but can't admit that and are embarrassed by it.

That's cool. I'll stop asking about since it's obvious that you can't refute it (no one can) and are too ashamed to say so.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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Why should somebody advise him when he tweets? Is he too stupid to be trusted with Twitter? Too immature? Too thin-skinned? Why should any adult need another adult to monitor his twitter account?

Can you give an honest answer to that question?

Sure I can. Donald is an extreme type A, he sleeps little, thinks BIG, his mind is always going. .....He does not need a babysitter but does need to have someone look at his tweets (before he sends out some of them) because he tends to respond at the moment, some might call him a hot-head. Everyone knows a hot-head, quick to speak.


Stupid? NO. Don't you wish you were this successful? You can't be stupid and have accomplished what Donald has.. He won the election because he was smart. Busy? Yes. No, he is not a career politician and let's give this great man a chance. Have you ever been new to a job? How did you feel? Donald is going to go through a lot and it's going to take some time...Successful? Look at all the businesses he owns:


Real Estate

Donald Trump is well-known in the real estate world and has sold some of the most expensive properties in the U.S. The Trump Organization real estate portfolio includes properties in Virginia, Illinois, Florida, New Jersey, Nevada, California, New York, Connecticut and Hawaii. New York makes up the bulk of this portfolio with ownership of some of the most expensive and tallest properties in the state. His international properties can be found in Canada, Turkey, Panama, South Korea, the Philippines, India, and Uruguay.

Hotels all over the world.


Golf Courses


Casinos


Trump Model Management


Success By Trump (fragrance)


Sentient Jets, LLC (Trump Jets LLC)


Trump Productions, LLC
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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The problem is the EC is supposed to vote on Dec 19. Jill Stein is requesting a hand recount. They also waited until the deadline to request the recount. That means that there are 15 days to meet the deadline for certification in Wisconsin. The Florida recount started a few days after the election and we barely made the EC. We are 2 weeks out from the election this time and they want to do three states and the recounts haven't even started yet. That means that if the SCOTUS isn't involved it will go to Congress and the Senate since Trump will not get to 260 votes. This could become the new strategy for the loser. Let's pretend for a second that Congress and the Senate was currently controlled by the democrats, but Hillary lost the Presidency. If they forced the same recounts causing the EC votes to not count for those states being hand recounted. This would be a perfect strategy to truly steal an election. That's why these recounts shouldn't be allowed for the Presidency unless something major is amiss. We are supposed to be inaugurating a new President on Jan 20th.
Interesting..so to your understanding, if the recount is not complete by Dec 19 it goes to the House? I guess I was assuming that if the recount wasn't complete by then they just accept the results that were already announced.
Otherwise, you're right - anyone could throw an election in doubt by demanding a recall at the last minute.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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We're not talking about Obama or Hillary here.

Trump tweeted that millions of people voted illegally or he would have won the popular vote. The person asserting the fact has the burden of proving it's true.

You obviously know that Trump tweeted a bald-faced lie to the entire world but can't admit that and are embarrassed by it.

That's cool. I'll stop asking about since it's obvious that you can't refute it (no one can) and are too ashamed to say so.
I'm not "ashamed" --- well...maybe in your fevered imagination I am. I already said that I don't know how many illegals voted so how can I refute what he said? You can't refute it either.

When you accuse Trump of being an embarrassment and a liar, you can't complain when Obama and Hillary come up in conversation. Obviously you were just fine with Obama being a liar and an embarrassment to the country. Plus you were just fine with the fact that Hillary is a pathological liar. You see, when you get on your high horse to complain about Trump, you leave yourself open to exposing your own hypocrisy.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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You "hate" liars and won't give them a chance. Yet Obama is a liar---Two of his most egregious lies were: 1) He would have a very transparent administration; and 2) If you like your doctor and your insurance, you would be able to keep both. For so many people that turned out to be a bald faced lie---in many cases, a lie that left people without insurance or with exorbitant costs.

You voted for Hillary, correct? She has been proven to be a pathological liar.
Well, actually....there are websites that track these things.

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact

Hillary Clinton's file | PolitiFact

Barack Obama's file | PolitiFact

Summary: The track record of their public statements shows that the % of statements made by Clinton, Obama, and Trump that rate as false or mostly false are as follows:

Clinton: 26%
Obama: 26%
Trump: 70%

If you look at the Politifact profiles of other politicians such as McCain, Pelosi, Reid, Rubio, and Romney, you'll see that a politician typically makes statements that are false or mostly false anywhere from 25-40ish percent of the time.

Clinton and Obama actually lie less than most politicians. Trump?....He lies more than anyone we've ever seen in politics.
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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^^^^Yeah, whatever. Those politifact links have been posted here before and been debunked. Do a search of this forum. You can start here:

PolitiFact Bias

Don't like that link? There are others.

It's amusing that you quote politifact as being the absolute truth LOL!
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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I can't imagine why anyone in these days and times, go to rags like Slate to find out what Donald Trump is saying on Twitter.

It's easy enough to just go there yourself and make your own mind up.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Even a cave man can do it.


I see nothing here that supports the allegations of the OP. Maybe he might want to be specific. (of course they never are)
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Sounds just like your idol, Obama.
Wrong again. Obama is not my idol. Never mind the fact Obama doesn't tweet out baseless lies about the people who voted in the election.
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