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I don't know why the states don't do this on their own, but Trump and the congressional Republicans should pass a law forcing the states to do the following.
I'm pretty sure there is no constitutional way for the Federal government to tell the states how to conduct their elections. Remember, there is no federal election for President. There are 50 state elections to pick electors who choose the President.
First, it's not that hard to clean up the data. Things like Social Security, tax, and drivers license records can be cross matched to flag the out of date registrations.
Second, the states either know, or should easily be able to know, which registered voters actually voted. So if you follow the trail from one end to the other, you can determine which and how many people with likely bad registrations actually voted. That would give you a good handle on the amount of actual voter fraud their is.
Of course, there are likely people in government who don't want the public getting that information.
I visited extensively with a County Clerk as to the voting rolls. So and so percentage, a low one, were said to vote but she said the voting rolls still had her grandparents on there even though they were long dead. I think they did eventually clean up the rolls. We were in one state and if you missed two major elections, I think that is how it went, you were removed from the rolls. It would have been the job of the County Clerk to research and remove names and that would not have been an easy or quick job as staff was limited.
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
I'm pretty sure there is no constitutional way for the Federal government to tell the states how to conduct their elections. Remember, there is no federal election for President. There are 50 state elections to pick electors who choose the President.
I'm not crazy about all of this forcing the states by the federal government in the first place. The federal government has been trying to walk all over the states in many matters where their nose didn't belong!
I know this just comes out of Hillary defeating herself and the delusions that it was the fault of the system and/or fraud. It will soon be forgotten.
In so many states, you don't even have to prove you're a citizen to register to vote except signing a statement saying so. No birth certificate needed, nothing. Fix that and have voter ID, it could go a long way towards securing our voting process.
Sure, if you believe that is the only kind of voter fraud that exists. In fact, in person voter fraud is very rare, it is other forms of voter fraud that needs to be investigated.
Sure, if you believe that is the only kind of voter fraud that exists. In fact, in person voter fraud is very rare, it is other forms of voter fraud that needs to be investigated.
How do you know ? If I'm an illegal and I show up to vote in California with a driver's license and I'm permitted to vote ... is that fraud ?
I don't know why the states don't do this on their own, but Trump and the congressional Republicans should pass a law forcing the states to do the following.
After any election for federal office, the states should have to wash their registration lists against federal databases like the Social Security Death Register, and others that would indicate that a registered voter might be ineligible to vote. They would then have to compare the result of that list with the list recording who actually voted. If the list shows ineligible voters accounted for more that 0.01% of the vote in that state, the registration list would have to be scrubbed, and the election reheld.
In point of fact, the states should scrub their registration lists before each election is held, but people will complain that legitimate voters might get knocked out.
Everyone keeps saying there's very little election fraud. This would prove it one way of the other.
Everyone keeps saying there's very little election fraud except president elect nutjob.
He's the one who has been pushing this assertion for months and months and months. How convenient for the cult to forget that this was started by him and continues with him. Is he a liar?
In this case it would be fairly easy. Follow the trail starting with well maintained databases that can validate the legitimacy of a person's identity and if they fit the categories of people who can legitimatelycan vote (meaning being alive, are citizens, etc.), wash the state voter registration lists against those databases. The non-matches of that operation would be a list of invalid registrations. Then get the list of voter sign ins, and match that against the list of invalid registrations. Any hits are probable cause to believe that those voters committed fraud.
What's so difficult?
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Originally Posted by Mircea
Frauds, by their nature, are difficult to prove. Unless the voter who committed fraud admits to it, it's hard to detect.
Non-citizens can get driver licenses in some states and voter ID wouldn't stop them from voting unless states tagged them as non-citizens.
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