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Because policies that seek to restrict a worker's ability to discover the true value of their labor do not lead to greater opportunity. Policies that shift the tax burden downwards, ship jobs overseas (which Trump claims to be against, yet is already making clear he's not sincere about), and allow speculative commodities trading that rapidly increases the cost of living in certain markets... those policies do not create opportunity. The increasing reliance on debt by the middle class to retain the same standard of living as previous generations creates an economically unstable environment as well.
Income inequality is at a post 1920s high... and soon to be an all-time high.
Fun fact: housing prices cost six times more relative to the median income now than they did in the middle of the Great Depression. For the middle class, we're essentially living in a depression. The only reason it doesn't look like one is that our financial markets are kept artificially stable.
This isn't Obama's doing. Reagan kicked this off, and Bill Clinton helped. Alan Greenspan is the pioneer of our economic malaise, along with many members of both parties.
Conservative opposition to labor unions is directly responsible for declining prosperity. It's also a bizarre position since labor unions are a free market entity, and it is government intervention that has destroyed them, yet right wingers claim to oppose government intervention... apparently it's fine when it reinforces the feudal structure of the economy.
These types of policies you're criticizing have been the norm since the 1980s, and are championed by the politicians you have been voting for for quite some time. Obamacare was a bandaid for a system that is dying. Our healthcare system will probably collapse in the next decade. Obamacare merely delayed that--by the way, the concept for the ACA was developed in the 1970s by Richard Nixon and the Heritage Foundation in response to increasing interest on the left for a Universal Healthcare system. Now Republicans hate it suddenly since democrats (who are more economically conservative than Republicans were in the 1970s) passed it.
The only solution for healthcare is to nationalize it, and join the rest of the developed world, where that's working out quite well for them--certainly better than for us.
You nailed it. Obamacare is actually Nixoncare. Google Richard Nixon healthcare address to congress 1974. When you read it you would think it was Obama's speech and not Nixon.
The middle class war started under Reagan and was helped along by Clinton. We are a global economy now and US companies are dumping millions of dollars into operations in Mexico. It's been headed this way since the Reagan years.
Btw Mexico, like canada has universal healthcare. They also go to college, come out with engineering degrees and learn new skills. That is a stark contrast with the upset and left behind rust belt states workers expecting the government to provide jobs in their left for dead towns, while not taking it upon themselves to learn new skills and make themselves marketable in a 21st century economy. And refusing to relocate where the jobs are.
You nailed it. Obamacare is actually Nixoncare. Google Richard Nixon healthcare address to congress 1974. When you read it you would think it was Obama's speech and not Nixon.
The middle class war started under Reagan and was helped along by Clinton. We are a global economy now and US companies are dumping millions of dollars into operations in Mexico. It's been headed this way since the Reagan years.
Btw Mexico, like canada has universal healthcare. They also go to college, come out with engineering degrees and learn new skills. That is a stark contrast with the upset and left behind rust belt states workers expecting the government to provide jobs in their left for dead towns, while not taking it upon themselves to learn new skills and make themselves marketable in a 21st century economy. And refusing to relocate where the jobs are.
Ahahaha....relocate to where the jobs are? And "engineering degrees from Mexico". Oh boy that was a good laugh. Like relocate to 4 hour commute, 4K a month little rat cage apartment city?
21st century economy? Like all become nurses and "coders" and food and goods are going fall like mannah from the sky (China)?
Liberals are INSANE and dangerous people.
Unless something changes we'll have a fast food CEO who has already spent millions fighting OT and wage theft lawsuits against his company, in charge of the department of labor.
This man will be in charge of OSHA, and MSHA, Unemployment, Equal Pay, Worker's Compensation, Wage and Overtime Law, Collective Bargaining, Labor Disputes, and more.
Things are definitely going to get worse before they get better. I can only hope they will not do too much damage in 4 years.
Ahahaha....relocate to where the jobs are? And "engineering degrees from Mexico". Oh boy that was a good laugh. Like relocate to 4 hour commute, 4K a month little rat cage apartment city?
21st century economy? Like all become nurses and "coders" and food and goods are going fall like mannah from the sky (China)?
Liberals are INSANE and dangerous people.
Well people from these small towns in states like pa and Ohio refuse to move out west or to states like North Carolina where plenty of jobs are. Or they do not try to learn new skills.
Mexican people go to college. Ford motor company hires Mexican residents for their plants in mexico. Most of them have degrees in engineering or other disciplines related to the job they do. However, their currency is worthless compared to the United States. If you can hire college degreed engineers to build cars at 200 Paseos a day rather than hire somebody from podunk pa to build a car at 20 dollars an hour and no education what decision makes most business sense for profits? They also learn to speak English where most people in the US refuse to learn a new language.
The title of this thread is "Sanders was 100% right." Why do you think the OP is ok with Hillary taking money from billionaires?
Why does the OP think it's okay that Sanders sold out and supported Hillary, taker of money from billionaires? All he had to do was shut up through the General Election. He could have even said he endorsed her and left it at that but he actually campaigned for her. That's what I'd be saying if I was a Sanders fan. I'm guessing she offered to pay his campaign debt.
About the Trump picks. You pick the best people to succeed at advancing your agenda. That doesn't mean a bunch of lawyers (except AG) from Capitol Hill or a bunch of university academics with theories. It means people with accomplishments at doing something and succeeding.
About the Trump picks. You pick the best people to succeed at advancing your agenda. That doesn't mean a bunch of lawyers (except AG) from Capitol Hill or a bunch of university academics with theories. It means people with accomplishments at doing something and succeeding.
Trump has picked the people who have written all the anti-worker trade deals over the past decades. The bankers, the fat cat donors, crony capitalists, Wall Street. You can claim that they should be allowed to continue what they are doing; crushing the American worker, but some people are fed up with that. You obviously are not and will continue to defend the establishment donor class.
That seems to be what this whole farce is about - saying one thing (e.g., we are going to drain the swamp and take on the wall street crooks) and doing another (bringing in every business special interest executive and crooked wall street billionaire to run his so-called drained swamp).
Bernie was worried this would happen, and now it is happening. Crooked Hillary would have indulged in some crony capitalism and political favoritism, but it would have been child's play compared to the greed and inequity that will reign under the Donald.
I just hope the guy finds it in his greedy, belligerent heart to dole out a loaf of bread and some soup to his impoverished workers every once in a while. Even welfare capitalism is better than no social support at all.
It's been worse for the last 8 years. It's just now starting to get better.
I understand you're trying to cover your embarrassment at having been scammed. But you've been Trumped. There is no draining of the swamp. The cabinet IS now the swamp. Filled with the oligarchy we've so far tried to hold back. No longer.
Goldman Sachs is now officially in charge of the country. That's who top cabinet members work or worked for. That's the stock that skyrocketed the most after the election. (It went up 24%.)
You have got to be kidding. Obama will be remembered as a great president. He led us out of the Great Recession. You know what was bad? From 2001 to 2009. Osama bin laden was behind 911 attacks and GW Bush decided to invade Iraq instead. Gas prices more than doubled under bush. Foreclosure rates were at an all time high. He authorized our tax money to bail out Wall Street. He left the US in the Great Recession. The American people were hurting and Bush left Obama a big mess. He righted the ship. You are right it has been so bad under Obama.
You expect somebody who has exploited workers, hired illegals, built his properties with Chinese steel, evaded paying taxes, run casinos into the ground to make America great again and bring jobs back to the rust belt. Given the history of Donald Trump what makes you think he is the person that can make it better? I just don't see it. It's like a career minor leaguer with a big last name hitting .200 in AAA ball lifetime. All of a sudden you call him up after his prime and hope he hits over .300 in the big leagues and is an all star. Again where is the history that leads you to believe Donald trump is going to look out for you and the average worker? Plus he inherited most of his money from his father Fred Trump.
I think the memberberries are real and you as well as 60 million Americans swallowed those berries all the way to the thorny vines
You and I know the facts you posted are true, but the other side refuses to see them. They have selective memories. They will slam the remarks you and I make about Obama, but I am really going to miss him. Unlike our upcoming "leader", Obama has class, compassion, worked tirelessly to make things better, and did it with dignity. He WILL be remembered as a great President. He made some good decisions and some not so good decisions, but his heart was in the right place when making them.
We've always been told to watch what we wish for, because we just might get it. Trump is going to be one of those wishes that turn out to be not so good for the people who swallowed his fantasy train ride.
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