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Old 12-22-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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Yes. There will be a note in his TSA file. How stupid were these two guys. Their identities are now known and their actions have put their personal safety in jeopardy.
Whether Democrats like it or not, these two idiots are representative of the new Left.
Dangerous premeditated harassment like this, only reduces the likelihood of Democrats winning National elections.
If this is what the sore-loser Left has in mind for America, there could be violence. Much caution should be exercised.
Thanks for confirming that. I figured that something along those lines was going to be done.
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Old 12-22-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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HUM, screechy and mentally-ill Fluffsters.......is that just a coincidence????

Looks like Ivanka needs a huge, ugly and very ogreish bodyguard......who knows what
the Libfilth/Sewerocrats will pull.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Stupidity at its best. The 2 parents have issues.
Still you wonder why she was on the plane and not on a rental. She did get on one in SF..
I would think there should be secret service agent around her and grandkids.

Unless Nutty Don did not request one for her and the grandkids.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Stupidity at its best. The 2 parents have issues.
Still you wonder why she was on the plane and not on a rental. She did get on one in SF..
I would think there should be secret service agent around her and grandkids.

Unless Nutty Don did not request one for her and the grandkids.
Secret service was on the Aircraft but chose not to intervene. Apparently they didn't think it was that big of a deal unlike Conservatives.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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Let's recap, shall we? A tremendously famous and wealthy woman decided to fly coach with non-famous, non-wealthy people. This woman campaigned for a guy who has publicly insulted hundreds of people. She ignored the fact that this guy, who is also her father, has alienated tens of millions of people when she decided to get on the plane with her children. She didn't think about the ramifications of what happens when your famous father insults, berates, alienates and calls people he doesn't even know "rapists". She ignored all that because she wanted, for some unknown reason, her family to fly coach.

Someone getting on board the plane saw her and said some rude things to her. She used crayons to distract her children from the rude passenger. Her security, AKA the United States Secret Service, paid for by U.S. taxpayer, did nothing. But the airline decided to remove the guy who was rude. They put him on another plane. Later, his privacy is invaded by internet stalkers.

When this enormously wealthy woman landed in San Francisco she was met, on the tarmac, by a fleet of cars. Her fellow passengers had to sit on board, possibly missing their connections, while she and her entourage received priority treatment and were escorted off the plane. It is later reported they all flew on a private jet to Hawaii. Where a man named Barack Obama, who is routinely insulted by her father, is also vacationing.

Trump's America. The next four years are going to be dog years.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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http://www.yahoo.com/news/inside-che...184545585.html

As Chelsea Clinton told Vogue in 2015: "There's nothing skin-deep about Ivanka. And I think that's a real tribute to her because certainly anyone as gorgeous as she is could probably have gone quite far being skin-deep."

^^^^^ Fairly akin to MightyQueen's impression that MQ posted on this thread.
I've met her several times and spoken to her on the phone several times, for business reasons, the last time in 2014. (I actually still have her business cell phone number, but I'm sure it's been changed, hehehe.) Very impressed with her. She's smart as hell, but warm and very personable and as I said, not at all full of herself. Yes, she is drop-dead gorgeous. Her parents hit the right combo of genes with that one. And she's almost as tall as I am!

I never met Donald, but we spoke on the phone. He told me I was terrific. I got off the phone and went into my boss's office and said, "I'm terrific. Donald Trump said so."

I did not vote for him even thought he was right about me being terrific. But, I would consider voting for her should she decide someday to take that path. She walked in with her lawyers and accountants but she took the leadership role in the discussions for her side of the table.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:48 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I have never really understood the mindset of people who blame victims for "putting themselves in that situation". Would I drive around in a fancy car in the middle of the night in a bad neighborhood in Newark, NJ. No. I would be an idiot to do so. But there is nothing illegal about being an idiot. If I did do it, and I got car jacked, the fault would be 100% in the hands of the car jackers. I would not be 10% responsible. I would not be 1% responsible. To put any of the responsibility on me would be to partially condone car jacking. "Well, it's not so bad because he put himself in that situation." Sorry, but it is just as bad as if it happened in a nice neighborhood. This is America. Anyone should be free to travel in peace wherever they like, and accepting anything less goes against all of our principles.

Also, I don't think it is that odd that she was in coach around the holidays. I always choose first class, but I also have a family of five, and sometimes during the holidays there just aren't enough seats available on any flights. In order to get first class for 5 people during the holidays to popular locations, you have to make the reservation exactly 11 months before the flight, and often you can't plan that far in advance.

I'm still a little confused about the destination because on CNN they just said that they were going to Palm Beach. So which is it? But the Palm Beach flight is particularly difficult. The most convenient route for me is United from Newark to West Palm, but there were a couple of times I had to take Jet Blue from JFK.
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Old 12-22-2016, 09:07 PM
 
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I have never really understood the mindset of people who blame victims for "putting themselves in that situation". Would I drive around in a fancy car in the middle of the night in a bad neighborhood in Newark, NJ. No. I would be an idiot to do so. But there is nothing illegal about being an idiot. If I did do it, and I got car jacked, the fault would be 100% in the hands of the car jackers. I would not be 10% responsible. I would not be 1% responsible. To put any of the responsibility on me would be to partially condone car jacking. "Well, it's not so bad because he put himself in that situation." Sorry, but it is just as bad as if it happened in a nice neighborhood. This is America. Anyone should be free to travel in peace wherever they like, and accepting anything less goes against all of our principles.

Also, I don't think it is that odd that she was in coach around the holidays. I always choose first class, but I also have a family of five, and sometimes during the holidays there just aren't enough seats available on any flights. In order to get first class for 5 people during the holidays to popular locations, you have to make the reservation exactly 11 months before the flight, and often you can't plan that far in advance.
Great post, I totally agree. People trying to turn this around on Ivanka and ask why she's flying coach on a JetBlue flight are despicable. How about because she can? Because she wants to? Because her dad's private plane is not her own and maybe he is using it at Christmastime? How about... it's not your business anyway and no one deserves to be treated the way she was today - no, not even the president (elect's) daughter who is just trying to go on vacation with her husband and little kids.

And what's with the JetBlue hate? I have flown JetBlue Newark to Florida and I thought it was just fine. Better than my experiences with American. I like the airline.
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Old 12-22-2016, 09:33 PM
 
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because behavior like this isn't limited to one group.
While that is probably true, we all know the large majority of it comes from leftist liberals, not conservatives. The same is true of protests blocking roadways, commerce, riots, etc.

you also don't see conservatives infultrating rallies to try and cause people to think they are liberal, then do something nutty to try and make the liberals look like they engage in the stuff. Yet liberals have been caught so many times going to rallies like the Tea Party, holding up vile racist signs, trying to make it seem like the people at those rallies are evil.

Heck what about the nut that was just arrested for burning a church, then writing "Vote Trump" as if to imply if was a conservative who did it. This is standard practice for "progressives", and not just in this country.
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Old 12-22-2016, 09:37 PM
 
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The passenger who spoke up was upset because the flight was delayed to accommodate Ivanka, Jared and their children. The man became irate after all the other passengers were told they couldn't board until the Kushners were safely seated first, due to security concerns.
Um, no. Don't know where you concocted this version of events, but this is not what seems to have occurred. I MIGHT believe your version had these guys not 1. tweeted BEFORE boarding that they spotted Ivanka in the airport and wanted to "chase her down" (also he hashtagged "#banalityofevil" in that tweet, what a winner - shows their intent) and 2. had these guys not tweeted very anti-Trump and general anti-Republican messages in the past. He actually previously tweeted AT both Jared and Ivanka about Trump: "Dear @IvankaTrump + @JaredKushner, there are swastikas being painted across America by people who support your father. PLEASE SAY SOMETHING." Ivanka Trump 'aggressively confronted by JetBlue passenger while sitting with her kids | Daily Mail Online

He did not become irate because they were late to board. He became irate because he was in the presence of a person he apparently despises, at the least he despises her father. Another passenger said the man started "visibly shaking" when he saw the Kushners were on the flight and called the situation a "nightmare." He also publicly questioned why they weren't flying privately, as if it's any of his business. He had the chance to just get on with his life after seeing them on the plane, and go sit down like an adult. But no. Couldn't do that. That was apparently too hard for him.

But it's quite obvious that this guy planned to attempt to harass Ivanka because of who her father is. If you can't see this, you're intentionally refusing to. Even people who dislike Trump and are liberals are sitting here saying that this is despicable behavior - because it's obvious what the aim was here.

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She is on a commercial flight with her 3 kids and is trying to mind her own business and this piece of garbage decides to pull this?
This is pretty much all that needs to be said. The "why was she on the flight?" doesn't even matter. She can be on whatever flight she wants to be. But apparently, any form of harassment on an airplane may not be tolerated. That's the takeaway. One thing is totally acceptable, the other isn't. Why are people choosing to focus on what is totally acceptable and blame her for casing what isn't? Some of you people are disgusting.

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Donald Jr. said people were always surprised to see him fly commercial, and sometimes in coach. When the host asked why he'd fly commercial or coach, he said the company had a tough year like all companies did (must have been around '08), and instead of cutting jobs, they all decided to tighten up on what they were spending. The host said something like, 'But your father has a plane and a helicopter' and he said, 'For HIS use. That's not for us to use. We're not the CEO.'
No one seems to be addressing the fact that their father's plane is not theirs. Sure, maybe they use it (and maybe they don't), but what if he is using it this weekend? It IS a holiday weekend. Maybe they just don't want to use it. I'm sure they have their reasons but they sure as hell don't owe us an explanation. Ivanka flying JetBlue over Trump's jet doesn't concern me at all. She can do what she wants with her life. This crazy guy on the plane, however, apparently cannot do what he did.


And for people who don't read articles shared or the thread, Secret Service WAS there and decided not to intervene. Ivanka also suggested the airline not make a big deal out of it. JetBlue did anyway, and that is their choice. I won't judge them for it. Airlines use their discretion for stuff like this all the time. I won't put myself in their shoes and Monday morning quarterback. Someone like that can be disruptive, and you never know what he could have done at any point in the air. You just don't know with people. And maybe there is more to the story that hasn't been reported regarding what he did or said.
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