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I'm amazed by the comments about Obama not being "really black".
So am I Rainy. People who say that are usually your inner-city blacks who grew up in lower socio-economical areas. Its almost that if you speak English and dont show your teeth or say "fenda" instead of "I am preparing to......" or "Axe" instead of "I have a question for your" or "ask" blacks tend to say that you are "not really black". I never understood this.
It's absolutely ridiculous to assert that Barack Obama is "black" or "African-American". Regardless of past racial classifications in regards to someone's "blackness", the reality is that genetically, Obama is no more African than he is Caucasian.
I think it's quite frankly racist, and ignorant, to ignore his Caucasian geneology and lump him with a group of people who he only shares half of his genetic makeup with just because he's caramel skinned and has kinky hair.
On the SNL skit, some people were apparently getting offended that a white guy used face paint and a wig to portray Obama. This makes absolutely no sense considering that Obama (feature-wise atleast) looks more like a white guy than he does a black one. Under these people's assessments, Denzel Washington or some other black actor should have played Barack, who by the way he looks NOTHING like.
As far as I'm concerned, it is such ignorance that is very prevalent among many white Americans in regards to recognizing and respecting mixed race persons for what they really are - mixed race.
So am I Rainy. People who say that are usually your inner-city blacks who grew up in lower socio-economical areas. Its almost that if you speak English and dont show your teeth or say "fenda" instead of "I am preparing to......" or "Axe" instead of "I have a question for your" or "ask" blacks tend to say that you are "not really black". I never understood this.
Bull****. I'm black and am an economic elitist. I recognize that Obama is NOT black - he's mixed race.
Can someone tell me what any of it matters? Are we in a pigment election? Are we judging by how many eggs the goose produced? NO! Can these people help us restore our country to something to be proud of and to be able to raise our family's in. That is all I care about.
When I learned that a black and a women were running I thought that America had come to a wonderful maturity. I was so wrong! All the effort to teach equality seems to be centered only on white America. Blacks are voting for BO at a rate of 80-90% which demonstrates that they are not voting for a candidate, but for a black man. It reminds me of the OJ Simpson trial. If white people had of voted because of race HC would already have the nomination. This begs the question; can black people be trusted for a fair and honest vote when there is a mixed race election?
The second part of this is gender prejudice. You may not like HC but she is the most qualified woman to run for office. ABC said she was not getting the white male vote. It is a sad thing that men are not voting for a woman simply because she is a woman.
I believe this shows that America has a long way to go on the subject of equality.
Don
To define how I define things (as I'm very precise and not PC. LOL):
If you were born in Africa (literally) and then came here and have become or have applied to become an American citizen, then I will call you "African-American". If you were born here in the states, then you are just a plain old American to me - but if color is important, I'll say "Black American". Likewise with the Asian-American tag, etc etc etc.
That being said, Obama has an African FATHER (who was born and raised in Africa), but a white mother, and Obama himself was born here in the U.S. Therefore personally I'd consider him "mixed race" if a tag had to be put on it.
I think though that regardless, a black or "mixed" President would maybe have more of an impact than a female President in terms of, I don't know the right word - controversy? Milestone? Breakthrough? Maybe all three? Keep in mind that of all the people that have been rumored to run alongside McCain for V.P., one of the names that came up is Condoleezza Rice - he would hit two birds with one stone if he's looking to keep up with the other side (so to speak) - having a running mate who is black AND a female.
At this point I think I'd vote for Punky Brewster if she'd run, to be honest.
No......no Condi for VP....this is coming from a black american. Heylll naw!
ABC said she was not getting the white male vote. It is a sad thing that men are not voting for a woman simply because she is a woman.....Donsabi
They're right. those white male voters do not want a female in the white house, they would rather have a black man or Mccain as president LOL! Thats the sexist part of america!~
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I tend to think that a black president would be more historic. I mean, there is a much stronger precedent for women leaders in other developed countries in the world, including much of South America and Europe. People like Margaret Thatcher and Evita Peron are looked at as icons of good leadership in England and Argentina and elsewhere. In fact, Indonesia had a female president (Megawati) for many years and that is the largest Muslim country in the world--a religion that gets a lot of bad press for its "repression" of women. But a black american president... I have yet to see a black man become a leader of a major European or South American country that is predominantly white (maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of it). Women are a majority in the U.S., blacks are a minority. I think that makes a big difference in deciding which would be more historic.
I'm Straddling the fence. I like them both. Its an exciting time in politics.
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