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Old 03-08-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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Old 03-08-2008, 09:51 AM
 
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No politican can save our economy. They spend money and have plans to spend alot more. The FED has more to do with controlling inflation and interest rates but also can not save our economy. It is the business cycle and us that have really effected our economy. Mostly us this time as we have been living on borrowed credit too long and buying houses many couyld never afford. People need to take more responsibilty and we need to save more.That way everyhime the economy cycles we don't have to look for someone else to blame but can weather it out.There is no dream team as far as the economy.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:00 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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He actually wasn't impeached for the Oval Office antics and his affairs, he was impeached for perjury. But with Hillary running -- it's easy to try to forget that.

Let's just all agree it's time for a change, time for a new face. Support Obama.

he was impeached for perjury, but it was all because of lying about "having sexual relations with that woman, miss lewinski". again, nearly EVERY president before him was able to conduct their sexual affairs in privacy, but weren't pounced on like bill clinton.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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he was impeached for perjury, but it was all because of lying about "having sexual relations with that woman, miss lewinski". again, nearly EVERY president before him was able to conduct their sexual affairs in privacy, but weren't pounced on like bill clinton.
So. He should have told the truth. Hillary knew he was cheating on her -- she's always known about that and she didn't care. So why would he lie?

All presidents didn't cheat on their wives -- there's no reason to believe Jimmy Carter did, or that Reagan did, or that others have.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:30 AM
 
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So. He should have told the truth. Hillary knew he was cheating on her -- she's always known about that and she didn't care. So why would he lie?

All presidents didn't cheat on their wives -- there's no reason to believe Jimmy Carter did, or that Reagan did, or that others have.
So bottom line... you don't like Bill because he cheated and you don't like Hillary because she forgave him. There are much more important issues at stake here... like who has the experience, knowledge, strenght and solutions to run the country... in short, who is the most qualified candidate to run for president of the democratic party. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:28 PM
 
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http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/HillaryChinaHat.jpeg (broken link)
haha, I forgot about that photo.. Obama should be using these...
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:31 PM
 
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he was impeached for perjury, but it was all because of lying about "having sexual relations with that woman, miss lewinski". again, nearly EVERY president before him was able to conduct their sexual affairs in privacy, but weren't pounced on like bill clinton.
But the difference is.. (if you believe EVERY president did, which I dispute), is that every president before him did not get on national TV and lie to the public, nor did they lie to a grand jury about it.

Dont make excuses for someone who lies, and broke the law, it lowers any credibility that you have and unacceptable. The higher in office they are, the less acceptable it becomes.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:37 PM
 
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So bottom line... you don't like Bill because he cheated and you don't like Hillary because she forgave him. There are much more important issues at stake here... like who has the experience, knowledge, strenght and solutions to run the country... in short, who is the most qualified candidate to run for president of the democratic party. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
I dont like Bill because I dont like people who dont mind destroying others to get ahead, and then when caught, they blame others for their own actions.

If you want to be president, you have to at least pretend to be presidential!!
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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Hillary was 100% behind NAFTA and the giveaway of our jobs.
That's simply not true. Even Carl Bernstein, who is no fan of Hillary and who wrote a critical book about her, said she told Bill repeatedly that NAFTA was a mistake and she didn't support it. Bernstein said that those who are insisting she was a champion of NAFTA aren't telling the truth. Other reporters have also documented her misgivings about NAFTA.
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Old 03-08-2008, 02:08 PM
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What experience? All of her experience in New York has caused the loss of tens of thousands of jobs there.. yes, just what we need, someone experienced at losing jobs.
You're being totally illogical if you can blame the loss of US jobs on Hillary or NAFTA. For instance, the public needs to take some responsibility and stop buying products made in China. And the jobless need to get off their butt and learn some new job skills. And the US auto makers have to start making cars that the US public is willing to buy. There are lots of things wrong with our society and you're a fool to pin all your hopes on a single person like Obama to solve them.

And look, if you need a job, GWB made some special ones just for you. Go join the military and see the world.

Just look at how long it's taking Governor Deval Patrick to make any changes in Massachusetts. He ran on a campaign of hope and change. He's worked on Obama's senate election campaign. They are friends that have dinner today and share the same speechwriters. You can't make changes based on good speeches. Get it through your heads that there is no easy painless fix by voting in a man that promises change when he can't deliver it. And when he doesn't make these changes, then you Obama people will make up lame excuses of conspiracy and sabotage against him. Just getting GWB out of the White House will be a huge change for the good of the country.

More and more, I am less afraid of Obama as our president but much more scared and disturbed over his supporters and the ugliness that they produce. I may have to vote for McCain this fall...
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