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Dude, you clearly can't read. Obama did not get more votes in the 2008 primary than Hillary. Hence, losing the popular vote.
Um, excuse me. The president is elected in the general election, not the primary. Again, I'm sorry you're so confused about how all this works. Although, to be fair, our system IS a bit convoluted and not as straight forward as it is in many other democracies.
Um, excuse me. The president is elected in the general election, not the primary. Again, I'm sorry you're so confused about how all this works. Although, to be fair, our system IS a bit convoluted and not as straight forward as it is in many other democracies.
I know how it works. Yes, a president is elected in the general. My point is that some of the left are saying "Well, Trump didn't win the popular vote." It is true, but Obama didn't in the primary. More democrats voted for Hillary, so by the left's logic, she should have been on the ballot in 2008. That is the point I am trying to make.
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Of course, Florida this Michigan that. The excuses with you Democrats is quite sad. "Oh, but, Obama did this so that's why." yada yada yada. He lost the popular vote. Denial isn't a river in Egypt.
I dont understand the point of people like you posting here. If you are just going to rant and/or troll, why not go to Breitbart or RollCall ????
You have clearly been proven wrong, and you just dont care.
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I know how it works. Yes, a president is elected in the general. My point is that some of the left are saying "Well, Trump didn't win the popular vote." It is true, but Obama didn't in the primary. More democrats voted for Hillary, so by the left's logic, she should have been on the ballot in 2008. That is the point I am trying to make.
Barack Obama's name was no on the ballot in the one race thatr Put Clinton over the top because the Democratic Party stripped the state of the delegates.
If you dont understand what those words mean, then say so, otherwise you playing dumb because it hurts for you to admit there is a difference between the 2.
Right, but Hillary's popular vote lead in CA nears 4 million, so why should 4 million in one state decide who the President is for the other 320 million?
You ask that as if the other 320 disagree with those 4 million, the actual support of the candidates break down to:
Trump: 62,984,825
Clinton:65,853,516
That is a total of 128,838,341 votes for the two main candidates.
The total number of eligible voters is around235,248,000 voters
That leaves 106,409,659 voters that did not vote, nearly Half of Americans, to me that speaks volumes about what so many thought of the two candidates.
So the argument that 4 million voters would have a final say over 320 million is a false claim based on a lack of facts, they are simply shifting the outcome based on their own individual votes.
Yes, I know we are a Republic, but as such we elect EVERY other official based on the popular vote, except for the one that counts the most. There was once good reason to have an Electoral College, that day has passed and should be the Will of All the People, why would you be against that.
You ask that as if the other 320 disagree with those 4 million, the actual support of the candidates break down to:
Trump: 62,984,825
Clinton:65,853,516
That is a total of 128,838,341 votes for the two main candidates.
The total number of eligible voters is around235,248,000 voters
That leaves 106,409,659 voters that did not vote, nearly Half of Americans, to me that speaks volumes about what so many thought of the two candidates.
So the argument that 4 million voters would have a final say over 320 million is a false claim based on a lack of facts, they are simply shifting the outcome based on their own individual votes.
Yes, I know we are a Republic, but as such we elect EVERY other official based on the popular vote, except for the one that counts the most. There was once good reason to have an Electoral College, that day has passed and should be the Will of All the People, why would you be against that.
So, if Hillary won the EC but lost the popular vote you would still be for abolishing the EC, right? The EC makes sure that every state has a voice, not just CA. Trump was elected by winning the popular vote in the majority of the states. If we went based on popular vote, it would only be useful to campaign in NY and CA, tell me how you think that's fair. And, btw, no, we don't elect based on popular vote for everything else. Cause Obama lost the popular vote in 2008 but won the nomination.
Founders were correct then, and it works well now.
Dems were not whining about it 18 months ago.
Nope, not really.
Then they were, it has outlived it's purpose.
I am not a Dem, and I have complained about the outdated system for at least 30 years.
Oh I do not think it will change, neither Party wants it to, it plays into their hands. Keep that in mind when a Dem wins the WH while losing the popular vote by Millions, will it still be spectacular then?
The whining of the Democrats about the existence of the EC shows why they're such poor losers and constantly miserable to go with their disgust and ludicrous histrionics about the newly-signed tax bill and offers even more irrefutable proof of their hatred of the middle class for no remotely intelligent reason.
NOBODY in this country with a brain wants the liberal policies of the Democrats to run our lives and run our country into the ground; eight years of OBAMUNISM was a disaster for millions of Americans and minorities in particular.
So, if Hillary won the EC but lost the popular vote you would still be for abolishing the EC, right? The EC makes sure that every state has a voice, not just CA. Trump was elected by winning the popular vote in the majority of the states. If we went based on popular vote, it would only be useful to campaign in NY and CA, tell me how you think that's fair. And, btw, no, we don't elect based on popular vote for everything else. Cause Obama lost the popular vote in 2008 but won the nomination.
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