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Old 01-31-2019, 07:31 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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LOL, Maybe because there's a lot more to "bash". He's simply being honest about it.
No, he is trying to make sure Republicans dont see him as a Trump spoiler. Its a smart move, but he doesnt have the support he thinks he has.
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Old 01-31-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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No, he is trying to make sure Republicans dont see him as a Trump spoiler. Its a smart move, but he doesnt have the support he thinks he has.

I don't care if he runs against Trump. I fully support, his Constitutional right to run for President of the USA. And should he actually try to primary Trump, I'd support him on that too. If Trump can't beat him, then he doesn't deserve to win it. Period.


I much rather see ANYONE in the race who is not another career establishment status quo politician.

The horror of 2016 was not the Trump nomination. The horror would have been having to choose between JEB & Hillary. That's no-choice.
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Old 01-31-2019, 07:48 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I don't care if he runs against Trump. I fully support, his Constitutional right to run for President of the USA. And should he actually try to primary Trump, I'd support him on that too. If Trump can't beat him, then he doesn't deserve to win it. Period.


I much rather see ANYONE in the race who is not another career establishment status quo politician.

The horror of 2016 was not the Trump nomination. The horror would have been having to choose between JEB & Hillary. That's no-choice.
im not even debating that.

Im just saying he clearly trying to position himself as something other than a Trump spoiler, that way his supporters see him as a viable option rather than someone just trying to beat their guy.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I don't care if he runs against Trump. I fully support, his Constitutional right to run for President of the USA. And should he actually try to primary Trump, I'd support him on that too. If Trump can't beat him, then he doesn't deserve to win it. Period.


I much rather see ANYONE in the race who is not another career establishment status quo politician.

The horror of 2016 was not the Trump nomination. The horror would have been having to choose between JEB & Hillary. That's no-choice.
I think the time of President Trump has spent in the White House has proven that non-career establishment status quo politicians are no better than career establishment status quo politicians, if not likely worse than the latter. I am not saying Schultz shouldn't win, but that he is not as moderate as people may think. He may be independent but I highly doubt he is as middle of the road as he is putting forth and will take away from libertarians who voted Trump and Johnson's coalition.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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My problem with raising the SS age is that there is widespread age discrimination in the workforce. Unless there is some type of guaranteed jobs program for older workers SS should not be tampered with.
Exactly, I do agree that Social Security needs to change, but it would also increase the working population in a way that could be detrimental to job creation. Why, because we would see more jobs needed. Those at age 66-76 (since it would likely go into two years below life expectancy. That and ageism on the old side could hurt this. That is unless we use UBI.
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Old 02-01-2019, 05:57 AM
 
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I think the time of President Trump has spent in the White House has proven that non-career establishment status quo politicians are no better than career establishment status quo politicians, if not likely worse than the latter. I am not saying Schultz shouldn't win, but that he is not as moderate as people may think. He may be independent but I highly doubt he is as middle of the road as he is putting forth and will take away from libertarians who voted Trump and Johnson's coalition.
Since you don't support Trump anyway, it's rather irrelevant isn't it?


Here's the question for you and the previous poster. Do you support Schultz's right to enter the race and run against the Democrat who might be nominated by whatever process the DNC cooks up this time?
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Since you don't support Trump anyway, it's rather irrelevant isn't it?


Here's the question for you and the previous poster. Do you support Schultz's right to enter the race and run against the Democrat who might be nominated by whatever process the DNC cooks up this time?
I support the right, but I think he'll drop out since he is being exposed as Trump-lite and not a Democrat. Also what does hating Trump mean anyway? I wouldn't vote for Schultz on policy alone. The point I was making was that the a political outsider is the same as an establishment, if not worse because they try running it like a business but cannot.
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Since you don't support Trump anyway, it's rather irrelevant isn't it?


Here's the question for you and the previous poster. Do you support Schultz's right to enter the race and run against the Democrat who might be nominated by whatever process the DNC cooks up this time?
He will be running against Trump.

It was Trump that promised to "balance the budget very quickly" but did the opposite so far.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...airly-quickly/

"reforming" social security and Medicare is a position of the right, not Democrats.

Trump failed at overturning Obamacare (because of his big mouth) and Schultz is now promising to not allow it to go any further. A position that will attract the right, not the left.
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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He will be running against Trump.

It was Trump that promised to "balance the budget very quickly" but did the opposite so far.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...airly-quickly/

"reforming" social security and Medicare is a position of the right, not Democrats.

Trump failed at overturning Obamacare (because of his big mouth) and Schultz is now promising to not allow it to go any further. A position that will attract the right, not the left.

I take note. That in that long diatribe. You actually didn't respond to what I said, nor answer the question.



This speaks for itself. You are scared of Schultz entering the race.
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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I take note. That in that long diatribe. You actually didn't respond to what I said, nor answer the question.
Because what you said is false.
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