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I left the party after GWB got us into the Iraq war. NOW it is the Dems who have become the Warhawks. MSM and the DEMs said they were afraid Trump would get us into a war with Iran, now they are angry he didn't! Like WTH?
I don't recognize either party, but the Dems have done a complete 90 degree left turn and are headed for a cliff.
I believe they are miscalculating just how close to Marxism/Socialism they can cuddle up to.
Can we all agree that Booker and Gillibrand are THE WORST candidates in the lineup?
I still like Gabbard the most.
If you're excluding all of the centrist nobodies (Klobuchar and Co.), I agree.
Other than that, she's going to have a hard time in the general election trying to appeal to the working class in Middle America who's seeking a populist.
Many in the working class will find Medicare For All and student loan relief to be very appealing because it effects their family budgets directly. For most families Medicare will be cheaper than the complicated patchwork private insurance system we have now. And college debt relief will not only help middle class families, it will be rocket fuel for the economy. It'll provide a far greater stimulus to the economy than Trump's tax cuts did.
Trump has a weakness no one talks about: the so-called "great economy" is not felt by many in the working class. A lot of middle class families are just treading water and the benefits of Trump's economy mostly go to the wealthy. If the Democrats can tap into that silent discontent it'll boost their chances in 2020.
Many in the working class will find Medicare For All and student loan relief to be very appealing because it effects their family budgets directly. For most families Medicare will be cheaper than the complicated patchwork private insurance system we have now. And college debt relief will not only help middle class families, it will be rocket fuel for the economy. It'll provide a far greater stimulus to the economy than Trump's tax cuts did.
Trump has a weakness no one talks about: the so-called "great economy" is not felt by many in the working class. A lot of middle class families are just treading water and the benefits of Trump's economy mostly go to the wealthy. If the Democrats can tap into that silent discontent it'll boost their chances in 2020.
Elizabeth Warren hasn't committed to Medicare for All.
For one, every candidate except one they claim supports M4A was literally quoted either saying they don't, they support "a pathway to M4A" (whatever that means) or they only support a public option.
Two, as far as Elizabeth Warren specifically, she says “there’s no excuse for stopping at half-measures.” Again, what that does mean? What does she perceive to be "half-measures?"
Fuethermore, they didn't even ask that question to all of the Democratic contenders (Tulsi Gabbard being the biggest omission).
Below is a much better report on Elizabeth Warren's Medicare for All stance (or lack thereof) and a snippet from the article:
...While Warren is a cosponsor of Sanders’s Medicare for All bill, she doesn’t talk about it in her campaign appearances and keeps her answers ambiguous when pressed.
Take for instance Warren’s March town hall on CNN. When asked directly whether she supports Medicare for All, Warren suggested that Medicare for All is merely a slogan for expanded public coverage, rather than a specific piece of single-payer legislation.
“When we talk about Medicare for All, there are a lot of different pathways,” she said, before listing a slew of incremental proposals without explicitly endorsing any of them, from lowering the age for Medicare eligibility to allowing employers to buy in to Medicare. “For me, what’s key is we get everyone to the table on this.”
Taking this answer at face value, it seems Warren sees herself pursuing an incremental approach that expands public coverage while preserving the private insurance industry should she be elected president. This would likely surprise many of her supporters, who might view her cosponsorship of Sanders’s Medicare for All bill as an endorsement of single-payer health care...
And she even said point blank when questioned by Jake Tapper that she wouldn't eliminate private insurance, which is exactly what Medicare For All would do.
TAPPER: If I could just follow up a little on Jay's question, so you are a co-sponsor of Senator Bernie Sanders' Medicare for All bill, and I understand there are a lot of different paths to universal coverage, but his bill that you've co-sponsored would essentially eliminate private insurance. Is that something you could support?
WARREN: He's got a runway for that. I think we get everybody together. And that's what it is, we'll decide. I've also co-sponsored other bills, including expanding Medicaid as another approach that we use. But what's really important to me about this is we never lose sight of what the center is, because the center is about making sure that every single person in this country gets the coverage they need and that it's at a price that they can afford. We start with our values, we'll get to the right place.
(APPLAUSE)
TAPPER: So, theoretically, though, there could be a role for private insurance companies under President Warren?
WARREN: There could. Or there could be a temporary role. Even Bernie's plan has a runway before it gets there, because it's — look, it's a big and complex system, and we've got to make sure that we land this in a way that doesn't do any harm. Everybody has got to stay covered. It's critical.
Lastly, the actual health care bill that she presented in Congress not only isn't M4A, but it doesn't even have a public option. In fact, it's merely incremental improvements to Obamacare.
...Warren on Wednesday introduced a new health care bill — and unlike the Bernie Sanders bill that Warren still co-sponsors, it does not call for a single-payer system. Instead, the legislation, called The Consumer Health Insurance Protection Act, aims to make insurance within the existing Obamacare system more affordable and protect more enrollees from insurance company policy changes and premium hikes. It would increase federal subsidies for people buying Affordable Care Act plans, allow more people to qualify for ACA tax credits and impose tighter controls on private insurers...
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Warren's main appeal is that she's a woman (there are people who think it's "her turn" to become president, policies be damned), the fact that she made a big splash with a proposal to forgive everyone's student loan debt (admittingly, Bernie has been quiet on this idea), and that's she's not Bernie.
Other than that, she's going to have a hard time in the general election trying to appeal to the working class in Middle America who's seeking a populist.
I don't think being a woman is helping her.
She has a long history of being for worker and consumer rights. She is the person who conceived of the Consumer Protection Agency and is only in the Senate because Obama did not appoint her head because a lot of corporate interests/pols opposed her. There was a huge clamor for her to run in 206 but she deferred- I have to wonder how big of a regret that is given that her longest standing message would have played much better in Mi and Wi than Hillary.
I think what is really helping Warren at the moment is that she has given the issues much more thought and has trotted out proposal after proposal with some specificity. That has been the greatest contrast between her and the 'B' boys- Bernie, Beto, Buttigeig- who seem to be running on feelings and emotion.
Warren also draws the sharpest contrast with Biden on fiscal issues.
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