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Old 06-27-2019, 11:51 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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If Biden does indeed move to the top of the heap to fight Bernie, Biden will lose every single state that Hillary lost to Bernie and possibly more. It will be the Super Delegates, yet again, that will save Biden in the end but by then, the damage will be done. Trump will chew him up and spit him out after that.


The Democrats best chance to take down Bernie is Pete Buttigieg. He steals all of Bernie's thunder, he isn't 500 years old and constantly angry, and certainly not as crazy. Bonus, unlike Bernie or Biden, he is also a veteran.
Pete currently has 0% of the black vote. Since this is a major voting bloc within the Democratic party - do tell how Pete can win?

I like him as well but I don't see that town hall helping him any with that voting bloc.
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Old 06-27-2019, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Business ethics is an oxymoron.
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What's not to like about getting all kinds of goodies and free stuff as long as someone ELSE pays for it?
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Old 06-27-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: DFW
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https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1143965603881017345

His eternal pouting and hanging on past his expiry date is part of the reason things went south in 2016. He’s primed and ready to do it again.

If we nominate Bernie when we have so many good, viable candidates to chose from, we deserve Trump.
I somewhat agree with this. I hate to say it because my beliefs are right in the Bernie camp, but I just have never seen him as a leader- you know that charisma factor.
If anything good came of What's his name taking office, it is that we have some truly great people who have come to the table. I'd be thrilled with any one of them. Bernie did not have that much competition in 2016, so I don't know if his campaign will have quite the same fervor this time around. We shall see!
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Old 06-27-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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What's not to like about getting all kinds of goodies and free stuff as long as someone ELSE pays for it?
Ask a banker.
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Old 06-27-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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A resume for President is what careerists believe in.

It does not make a good executive, it makes an executive who manages policy in terms of personal gain. And all personal gain comes from supporting the existing institutions.

If Bernie can even put a dent in the meritocratic system that has upheld concentrated wealth it would be a great benefit for this country's future.

Bernie is part of the 'meritocratic system that has upheld concentrate wealth.' He got his wife a job as a university president that had to close after her failed attempt a real estate purchases. His kids worked for his foundation. He swapped houses left and right. He sold multiple books (both rights and books themselves) through the very type of corporations he rails against.


That said- I think its a moot point. Warren is really eating into his turf. And their are at least 4 other candidates who can take shares of the anti-establishment vote.
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Old 06-27-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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Bernie is part of the 'meritocratic system that has upheld concentrate wealth.' He got his wife a job as a university president that had to close after her failed attempt a real estate purchases. His kids worked for his foundation. He swapped houses left and right. He sold multiple books (both rights and books themselves) through the very type of corporations he rails against.


That said- I think its a moot point. Warren is really eating into his turf. And their are at least 4 other candidates who can take shares of the anti-establishment vote.
I will not be voting for Bernie.

But this childhood game of telephone needs to stop.

Bernie owns a house in Vermont. He rents it out.

He owns a condo in DC. Where do you expect people who legally have to have a residence in their home state and a place to live while working in DC to hang their hats?

His wife inherited a vacation cabin from her parents. She sold it to buy one closer to her needs.

How many elected have their family on the payroll? Tom Delay was paying his wife and daughter nearly half a million a year.

If you condemn one, you should condemn all.

Do you mean no elected person can own more than one house or employ relatives?
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Old 06-27-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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Bernie is the closest democratic to Chump. They're both petulant, whiny, and big old babies.


The only difference is that Bernie understands the political systems set in place...you know...3 branches, not a dictatorship, etc.




They both engage is extreme soundbite politics to rev up the crazies:


Chump - guns, Roe v. Wade, deals, trade, winning,

Bernie - revolution, free healthcare, free college


Senile old men. Bernie just needs to Tweet like a nut and they'd be twins.
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Old 06-27-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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Bernie is the closest democratic to Chump. They're both petulant, whiny, and big old babies.

The only difference is that Bernie understands the political systems set in place...you know...3 branches, not a dictatorship, etc.

They both engage is extreme soundbite politics to rev up the crazies:

Chump - guns, Roe v. Wade, deals, trade, winning,

Bernie - revolution, free healthcare, free college


Senile old men. Bernie just needs to Tweet like a nut and they'd be twins.
Bernie and Trump are different sides of the same coin, for sure.
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Old 06-27-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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Bernie and Trump are different sides of the same coin, for sure.

Not quite. One beat Hillary. The other got beaten by Hillary.
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Old 06-27-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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I'm sorry you think that.
I know.
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