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View Poll Results: Hate Trump, but may vote for him because the Democrats are scary?
Yes I hate Trump, I normally vote for Democrats but may vote for Trump- they are scary 34 33.33%
No, I hate Trump and support the liberal/progressive viewpoint of the Democrats. 56 54.90%
I just won't vote, and refuse to vote for a lesser of two evils 12 11.76%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-28-2019, 03:54 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Let me guess? Revert the corporate tax rate back to 35%+? Reinstate the prior trade policy so we can send a trillion $$ a year of manufacturing back to China? I worked late and did not watch the democratic debate. My grandmother typically votes democrat and about half way through she'd had enough and turned it off and basically agreed with me that even though she hates Trump he's the least of the worst and the Democrat "offerings" are all far too extreme.

Regarding "Endsley", No actually I don't. On the surface his climate change and reducing emissions agenda may seem attractive, but as a working class lifelong resident in WA I feel like my concerns come last. Our state caters to the rich with it's land use policies, provides everything for free to the poor/homeless/illegals, and hangs a majority of the bill on the working mans back while we can't often afford those things that the poor/homeless/illegals get for free (Healthcare, assisted housing, food stamps, legal representation, etc etc etc). We have a gutless revolving door justice system that puts drunks druggies and violent criminals back on the street. On top of that he's illegally transferred state/federal funds for his own campaign use and lashed out against his own AG when called out on it.
Maybe you and I should switch locations. Can you handle 30+ days of 105 degrees? LOL
I lived in the PNW, so I already know I'd like where you are.
Then we'd both fit in!

 
Old 06-28-2019, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Says the person who admitted in 2016 that you had "no choice" but to vote for Trump, who you earlier claimed you could never support, because he was the Republican nominee. But you can't fathom how other people might make a similar choice on the other side.
Exactly. Your typical hypocritical Trump supporter. And as for the poll, there is no way in hell I would vote for Trump. Poll should have been made public so we could see who voted yes.
 
Old 06-28-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by usual points View Post
Ever since Donald Trump has become our President I hate him more each day. But after watching the two debates of the 20 Democratic Candidates running for President, I may have to vote for Donald Trump in 2020.

Why: The Democratic Party Candidates running today make George McGovern seem like Barry Goldwater. They are radicals and will turn the country into another Cuba. Open the border, free guaranteed income, raise taxes, social programs for everyone to get votes, excuse all student loans, Medicare For All, go easy on criminals, etc.

Would you consider voting for Donald Trump even if you normally vote Democratic because the current Democrats are too radical and liberal?
I would vote for anybody other than him. He's the worst thing that has ever happened to this country, IMO. Letting kids die at the border, deregulating clean air and water, etc., having temper tantrums when separate branches of government try to do their jobs. Can't see ever supporting anyone as repugnant as him.
 
Old 06-28-2019, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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That is a sad and not the brightest attitude.
I would too, it's not sad and it's smart. Trump has got to go, he's the worst I've ever seen in my life here.
 
Old 06-28-2019, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I would vote for anybody other than him. He's the worst thing that has ever happened to this country, IMO. Letting kids die at the border, deregulating clean air and water, etc., having temper tantrums when separate branches of government try to do their jobs. Can't see ever supporting anyone as repugnant as him.
I agree, when he basically just dismissed that image of a father and young daughter lying dead face down in a river, I thought to myself, he’s a complete psychopath!
 
Old 06-28-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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I agree, when he basically just dismissed that image of a father and young daughter lying dead face down in a river, I thought to myself, he’s a complete psychopath!
What's worse is there are so many who agree with him. Unconscionable.
 
Old 06-28-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Lizap View Post
Plus the viscous attack on Biden (who has served this country for decades) by Harris, a junior senator. They are doing themselves in..
She needed to find a way to set herself apart and get noticed, and sometimes the only way to do that is by coming out forcefully.

Before the debate last night, she wasn't anywhere on the map. Now she is.
 
Old 06-28-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HeyJude514 View Post
What has Trump done to appeal to the center? Every one of his little rallies is aimed at his core base on the right fringe, and to no others. His numbers are permanently stuck at his base of around 40 percent. In two years he hasn't moved the needle at all, hasn't expanded his base in the slightest.

That suggests that his message and his leadership isn't resonating with the middle. And that would seem like it's not a winning strategy for reelection.
Trump is a flawed and unpopular candidate. He is under-performing the fundamentals for an incumbent president with a good economy. But, I don't think he has to become more popular, he just has to make people hate the democrats more. After all, he was more unpopular than Hillary Clinton when he won last time.

I think if his message is focused around:
1) the economy is booming
2) the democrats are open boarder socialists

he could win a close race.


Based on the first debate, the Dem candidates seem to be helping him on the 2nd point.
 
Old 06-28-2019, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm one of those Independents who may have to stay home (or hold my nose and vote for Trump) if the Democrats nominate anyone other than Biden. The Democrats (including the media) will lose the election by nominating a far left candidate. Harris doesn't realize it, but she did tremendous damage last night to the Democrat's quest to win the presidency in 2020 with her viscious attack on Biden.She, Warren, and Sanders are too far left to win at the national level.
I honestly don't think a busing issue from 40 years ago is going to be much of a issue for Biden.
 
Old 06-28-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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I agree, when he basically just dismissed that image of a father and young daughter lying dead face down in a river, I thought to myself, he’s a complete psychopath!

Why are you holding Trump responsible for someone who died in Mexico? Because that's where it happened.

Fact of the matter, if Trump went down there and personally jumped in that river and saved them, you wouldn't acknowledge it, just like the others who simplistically say they will vote for anyone besides Trump. That's not rational argument. It's justification for an irrational position.
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